50D or 60D,, Tight budget ??

Wanting better AF,,and metering,,,have a 30D, i bought new,,and a XSi ,bought with 1200 clicks,,both in very good shape...On a very tight retiree budget,,will buy used,,,,BUT which one ??& why ?? can you help this old goat decide?? I do all kinds of Photos,,Thanks Ron

used 1dmk2. Don't know what you shoot but 30d wasn't bad. 40d was better.

I don't think you'll go wrong with either. Probably whichever you find cheaper.

Setting aside the usual crap about magnesium vs polycarbonate and swivel screen hate, the 60D has the advantage in

Newer sensor

Newer processor

Better high ISO

Flash wireless commander for remote triggering of off camera flash (2 groups). It got me into studio portraiture...

Better implementation of video

The 50D has

More FPS

Manual Focus Adjustment (a feature that many say they can't live without, but I've heard only one 60D owner complain that his lens required adjustment (actually having to send back to Canon).

There are probably other smaller or less important features, I am sure others will chime in.

I love my 30D,, this is why its hard to decide,,and i skipped the 40D because my XSi has many things that are better or as good as the 40D,,IMHO..yes the 40D has been a work horse for many,,,??bought the XSi for wife but she never really took to it,,,still likeing her G9,,,Thanks Ron

Maris M1,,,Gerry i see you have a 60D,,and i think you are saying the 60D with its newer items would be a better buy for me as i don,t think MFA would be of much help to me as my Macro use is very limited...Ron

I vote for the 60D. No MFA required. I shoot 50mm 1.8 wide open, 85 1.8 wide open and 100-400L wide open at 400 and never missed MFA. I believe Canon improved the AF algorithms with the 60D. I had a 135L and 200L that both back-focused on my T1i. Neither did it on my 60D.

My 50 1.8 will miss focus in low light, but that is not a MFA problem. It is a lens problem.

60D

does 60d have MA?

bobbyz wrote in post #14652490
does 60d have MA?

No. It doesn't need it.

Ron, personally I prefer to buy a newer rather than an older body.

More often than not, newer bodies have better features/capabilities. Some people like them, some don't care about novelties.

However, electronics age, parts become more difficult to come by. The 1DII Bobbyz recommended above is no longer serviced by Canon. I expect that some other coveted models will follow in the next 2 years. If you have limited resources, there is no reason to play with antiques.

The Canon Loyalty Program often has 50D and 60D refurbished bodies available, I think the 60D costs $640 + tax/shipping, the 50D somewhat less (maybe $100 less... I am not sure).

MFA is for any lens, not just macro lenses. It allows you to adjust a lens that front/back focuses. I've read somewhere that in the 60D Canon implements some changes in the software which either reduces or eliminates the front/back focus. I am not sure that this is not an urban myth...

$700. is about my budget limit right now,,so will look into a Canon refurb,,or put a hunt on for a good low click,,60D used one...any one else got thought on this ?? Yes as new as i can aford i think is better,,,,Ron

At Canon refurb there is a good chance you will get a camera with a few tens or a few hundred clicks. You do get a camera that had a once over by Canon techs, 14 return period and 90 days warranty.

With a used camera, you get an unknown... Unless you know the seller, you don't know if something is wrong with the camera, normally the actuations will be in the thousands, in general the camera had a prior life.

MakisM1 wrote in post #14652527
Ron, personally I prefer to buy a newer rather than an older body.

MFA is for any lens, not just macro lenses. It allows you to adjust a lens that front/back focuses. I've read somewhere that in the 60D Canon implements some changes in the software which either reduces or eliminates the front/back focus. I am not sure that this is not an urban myth...

I KNOW my 60D focuses fast primes (f/1.8, 2.0) wide open at very close distances without missing. There are no consistent errors of any kind. I've never tried any of the f/1.2 or 1.4 lenses. But when my DOF is measured in fractions of an inch, I am pushing the limits of AF technology. The AF system on the 60D just works. Oh, by the way, my T1i did have consistent problems with some of these same lenses, shot wide open.

OK Gerry you sold me,,,can you provide a quick link to Canon 60D refurb link,,at Canon USA ?/ Thanks

Ronnie H wrote in post #14652628
OK Gerry you sold me,,,can you provide a quick link to Canon 60D refurb link,,at Canon USA ?/ Thanks

It's slightly more complicated...you have to call them!

Read this carefully...

https://photography-on-the.net …ght=Canon+Loyal​ty+Program