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Jul 02, 2012 17:23 |  #1

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New York State, found in thicket and brush close to ground. (Added to help with identification)

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Jul 02, 2012 17:40 |  #2

It's an evil female warbler from the looks of it. I say evil because they can be tricky to ID, at least for me. I would venture towards Female Yellow Warbler or Female Common Yellowthroat. But maybe someone more warbler savvy will chime in.


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Jul 02, 2012 17:47 |  #3

MakeMeShutter wrote in post #14662039 (external link)
New York State, found in thicket and brush close to ground. (Added to help with identification)
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Looks like a fledged Scarlet Tanager.




  
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Jul 02, 2012 21:40 as a reply to  @ John Sheehy's post |  #4

I'm going to propose a fledged summer tanager rather than scarlet tanager. I think the bill is too slender for a scarlet.


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Jul 03, 2012 03:28 |  #5

Wow, that's a tough one. It appears to be a fledgling. Have you found any Connecticut Warblers in the area.


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Jul 03, 2012 08:48 |  #6

chubri777 wrote in post #14663890 (external link)
Wow, that's a tough one. It appears to be a fledgling. Have you found any Connecticut Warblers in the area.

Yeah, that is also a possibility. Hard to tell with no size information, and a single shot. it helps to see it being fed, or followed by an adult.




  
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Jul 03, 2012 17:01 |  #7

Thanks to everyone that responded!
Sorry I didn't respond quicker but I have been out photographing.
I greatly appreciate the effort on everyones part so far.

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It's an evil female warbler from the looks of it. I say evil because they can be tricky to ID, at least for me. I would venture towards Female Yellow Warbler or Female Common Yellowthroat. But maybe someone more warbler savvy will chime in.

I am currently considering the female Common Yellowthroat.

John Sheehy wrote in post #14662118 (external link)
Looks like a fledged Scarlet Tanager.

I ruled out Scarlet Tanager with the bill, I thought it was a bit too narrow.
I am still skeptical about this though, the longer I look at it, the more I get mixed signals.

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I'm going to propose a fledged summer tanager rather than scarlet tanager. I think the bill is too slender for a scarlet.

I have never seen a Summer Tanager in my area.
The slender bill leads me to believe it is a warbler.

chubri777 wrote in post #14663890 (external link)
Wow, that's a tough one. It appears to be a fledgling. Have you found any Connecticut Warblers in the area.

I had not found Connecticut warblers in the area, but that is not to say that there aren't any.
If Connecticut Warbler, it is lacking the prominant white eye ring.
Most immature Connecticut Warbler images I have viewed show signs of the eye ring, but this does not rule it out.

John Sheehy wrote in post #14664593 (external link)
Yeah, that is also a possibility. Hard to tell with no size information, and a single shot. it helps to see it being fed, or followed by an adult.

An adult feeding it would certainly make for easy identification.
There was no sign of an adult in the immediate area and I only managed one shot before it took off into the brush.
There was a Common Yellowthroat male about 35 yards up the hedge.
I'm starting to lean in that direction.

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Jul 03, 2012 17:30 as a reply to  @ MakeMeShutter's post |  #8

What size would you estimate it to have been?
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Jul 03, 2012 18:02 |  #9

I would guess about 4 to 5 inches.
I was close about 15 feet and had a 300mm with 2x teleconverter attached.


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Jul 03, 2012 18:45 |  #10

MakeMeShutter wrote in post #14666930 (external link)
I would guess about 4 to 5 inches.
I was close about 15 feet and had a 300mm with 2x teleconverter attached.

If that's the case then I can see it being a young Yellowthroat. The bill profile also fits that species.


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Jul 03, 2012 19:05 as a reply to  @ DianeK's post |  #11

I'm starting to really lean towards the Connecticut Warbler based on the two toned beak, yellow starting on the lower belly, eye ring, posterior faint eye stripe, long wings. Can't see the tail coverts very well however they appear long as well. Sibleys map also shows they should be in your area although granted somewhat rare as a nesting species. Anyone else care to chime in? Any local bird stores in your area that could help you out? You could also send your image to the Cornell ornithology lab in Ithaca ;-)a


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Jul 03, 2012 22:05 |  #12

DianeK wrote in post #14667160 (external link)
I'm starting to really lean towards the Connecticut Warbler based on the two toned beak, yellow starting on the lower belly, eye ring, posterior faint eye stripe, long wings. Can't see the tail coverts very well however they appear long as well. Sibleys map also shows they should be in your area although granted somewhat rare as a nesting species. Anyone else care to chime in? Any local bird stores in your area that could help you out? You could also send your image to the Cornell ornithology lab in Ithaca ;-)a

Yea, Cornell might have a better idea, you can find them on facebook to post the pic. The only reasons I wouldn't suggest Connecticut Warbler is that they barely crest the western tip of NY in range. It's not impossible but not too common as they only pass in migration and are a cold weather species. It's certain to be a warbler or in that family, but being female or a juvi. makes it tricky to ID as they all look a lot alike.

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Jul 04, 2012 01:39 |  #13

Based on range I would say Connecticut can be ruled out. This bird really has an oporornis feel to it so I think Mourning Warbler may be a better fit.
here is a bad pic for comparison.

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Jul 04, 2012 11:04 |  #14

I will stop in at Cornell Labs next time I am down that way.
At the present time, the link Chuck has provided looks like a pretty good match.
I am going with "Juvenile Mourning Warbler" until I get confirmation.

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