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Jul 03, 2012 15:46 |  #1

Does anyone do that? I will start to offer selling some of my prints (all landscape) and I want to release each print in a very limited edition and charge progressively higher price for each print. The original plan was to start print 1 at lets say $50 and increase next print by lets say 5%. Recently I thought it would be better to do it in reverse, where print 1 will be the most expensive and print 25 (if its a 25 print limited edition) will be $50. My take on it that lets say in 10 years I will become popular / famous and the first print of 25 should be worth more than the last print.

Whats your take on it?


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Jul 03, 2012 15:51 |  #2

To date have you sold out a limited edition run? If not, price them the same and wait until enough demand has developed to play pricing games.




  
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Jul 03, 2012 16:07 |  #3

It's not necessarily a bad thing to have this level of confidence about ones photos, but, yeah, you might want to let the market speak first and at least bear in mind what it has to say.



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Jul 03, 2012 19:19 |  #4

I was looking at your photos. You need to shoot at a better time of day. You're getting alot of harsh shadows and the light isn't favorable.

I did like this photo though.

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Jul 03, 2012 19:36 |  #5

One problem with this is usually the higher the number on the print the less valuable it is. So if #20 finds out they paid more for the print than #3 there will be a serious disconnect. So I would drop the price as you go or keep it the same.

As far as earlier works being more/less valuable over time the prints should be dated along with your signature. This will keep everything in line.


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Jul 03, 2012 20:04 |  #6

On my work computer your portfolio link just shows a left sidebar with a white page. I wouldn't pay much for that.

Limited edition prints may work if you're in the top 0.001% of landscape photographers, the ones who are already in demand. If you don't already make a living selling landscape photos then I can't see this being a good idea.


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Jul 04, 2012 11:26 |  #7

ultimachi wrote in post #14667204 (external link)
I was looking at your photos. You need to shoot at a better time of day. You're getting alot of harsh shadows and the light isn't favorable.

I did like this photo though.

http://www.darkeclipse​.com …/06/BRYCE-CANYON-4128.jpg (external link)

Thanks for your feedback. All the pictures that you see were taken on my first ever photography tour which covered a lot of stops over 2 week period. It was the first time that the tour operator was doing a photography tour. It was their regular itinerary but for the first time they had a "celebrity" travel blogger going who would assist in photography aspect. The reality of the trip was that the blogger was not an expert on photography and did not offer much guidance to the trip. We were taken to tourist locations within the parks during whatever time it fit the tour schedule. Most of my pictures were taken handheld as I was walking from place to place to keep up the pace. I shot what I could with the knowledge I had.

I am very critical of my own work and out of all the pictures I will post on my website I will select around 10 best for prints. Each one will go over another reedit and I am investing in color calibration hardware + undergoing Lightroom training to improve my editing skills. I want to deliver the best product I could.

Pricing structure I am thinking about is simple. I already have some local interest in my prints. These are people I already know, who already respect me and were impressed with my trip and my lightly edited pictures. From first prints I want to establish exclusivity of my prints. Limited edition versus mass produced. I want to sell small number of prints from my first trip and go on additional pro led photo tours to have new prints. I am in the process of booking one trip with 2 leaders as we speak (partially revisiting one of my stops on first trip), thanks to a recommendation of a forum member.

Funny story about the picture you like. We left hotel at 5:30am and my alarm went off at 5:25. I put on some clothes, grabbed my camera / tripod & forgat charged battery in the charger. I missed out on the whole sunrise and when my group was mostly done I discovered someone that had a 60D that had the same battery as my camera. I had 5-10 mins to take the end of the sunrise when the viewing point had less than 5 people, myself included. I took different pictures than everyone in my group by being 15+ minutes late to the party. Between 3 sunrise at Bryce Canyon pictures that I posted I like the next one in series - Bryce Canyon Fireball (external link) but I am not planning on offering either one of them as prints.


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Jul 04, 2012 11:49 |  #8

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On my work computer your portfolio link just shows a left sidebar with a white page. I wouldn't pay much for that.

Limited edition prints may work if you're in the top 0.001% of landscape photographers, the ones who are already in demand. If you don't already make a living selling landscape photos then I can't see this being a good idea.

What browser are you using? I've tested the site on 2 work computers, 2 home computers, tablet as well as had 10+ others access with no issues reported. I've tested it on IE, Chrome, Firebox, Dolphin personally and I dont know what browser was used by several MAC viewers.

Supply vs demand. If you had an option to buy limited print with low print # versus mass produced print and the difference would be $20 which one would you get? I want to establish myself as a luxury brand from day 1.


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Jul 04, 2012 12:03 |  #9

^It's the fact that you're presenting yourself as a luxury brand from day 1 and musing on your future fame that may strike some as amusing. You seriously have to be doing some pretty unique stuff to be able to sell significant quantities of prints at decent prices. Most people who are successful in this way are established artists in their fields and have worked many years to get there.



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Jul 04, 2012 14:57 |  #10

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What browser are you using? I've tested the site on 2 work computers, 2 home computers, tablet as well as had 10+ others access with no issues reported. I've tested it on IE, Chrome, Firebox, Dolphin personally and I dont know what browser was used by several MAC viewers.

Supply vs demand. If you had an option to buy limited print with low print # versus mass produced print and the difference would be $20 which one would you get? I want to establish myself as a luxury brand from day 1.

Firefox - screenshot attached. If you use some weird technology or host the images on another site it may be blocked at work, I work for a government department.

If I had to buy a print I'd buy the one I liked the best, regardless of one being limited or not. Your photos are nice snaps, but regardless of what label you put on them in my opinion you're not at the level that you can sell landscape images for much money yet.

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Jul 04, 2012 15:20 |  #11

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Firefox - screenshot attached. If you use some weird technology or host the images on another site it may be blocked at work, I work for a government department.

If I had to buy a print I'd buy the one I liked the best, regardless of one being limited or not. Your photos are nice snaps, but regardless of what label you put on them in my opinion you're not at the level that you can sell landscape images for much money yet.

I would agree with this


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Jul 04, 2012 15:58 |  #12

tim wrote in post #14670496 (external link)
Firefox - screenshot attached. If you use some weird technology or host the images on another site it may be blocked at work, I work for a government department.

If I had to buy a print I'd buy the one I liked the best, regardless of one being limited or not. Your photos are nice snaps, but regardless of what label you put on them in my opinion you're not at the level that you can sell landscape images for much money yet.

I didnt post any pictures in the portfolio section yet. I am posting some pictures to the index blog page of the site and will fill portfolio after I reedit some of the best pics.

I never said I plan on selling every picture. From everything that I have posted so far there are only 2-3 pictures that I like. I am posting more to build content of my site while I initiate SEO efforts. My site is no where finished and

Time will show if I can sell some prints or not.


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Jul 04, 2012 16:34 |  #13

gonzogolf wrote in post #14666491 (external link)
To date have you sold out a limited edition run? If not, price them the same and wait until enough demand has developed to play pricing games.

I agree with this.

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One problem with this is usually the higher the number on the print the less valuable it is. So if #20 finds out they paid more for the print than #3 there will be a serious disconnect. So I would drop the price as you go or keep it the same.

As far as earlier works being more/less valuable over time the prints should be dated along with your signature. This will keep everything in line.

I know that what you say is true, but I've never understood *why* it's true. I mean, if the limited edition is 100, what the hell does it matter? 100 is 100 is 100. They could have been printed on the same day, and signed/numbered in reverse order, for all the buyer knows.

Even if they were printed/signed/numbere​d one at a time and as sold... so? 100 is 100 is 100.

And if not all 100 sold, then that would suggest the whole limited edition thing was overestimated, and thus overpriced, to begin with.


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Jul 04, 2012 17:45 |  #14

Lowest numbers usually go into a personal collection of the artist or close friends or those of a company who provided sponsorship/work product. So may low numbers are not always in circulation. having said that, higher numbers are general public and may not always get taken care of in the same manner, meaning they sit in a room in direct sunlight, or some other place where damage could be done.

If you've ever watched the famous auto auction on tv, you will see that the lowest number production cars make their way to certain (potentially famous or influential) customers first, and therefore have higher value than does a car with a serial number in the thousands.




  
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tim wrote in post #14670496 (external link)
Firefox - screenshot attached. If you use some weird technology or host the images on another site it may be blocked at work, I work for a government department.

If I had to buy a print I'd buy the one I liked the best, regardless of one being limited or not. Your photos are nice snaps, but regardless of what label you put on them in my opinion you're not at the level that you can sell landscape images for much money yet.

I agree with this as well.


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