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Jul 04, 2012 16:31 |  #1

This might be of interest to gearheads. An actual RED camera in use.

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The operator was following a U.S. Senate candidate as he campaigned at a parade.



  
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Jul 04, 2012 18:24 |  #2

Those are awesome but I must say, what a wierd choice of camera for a US Senate candidate campaigning. We use these and Alexas regularly on our film sets, not really a TV camera.




  
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Jul 05, 2012 05:38 |  #3

Yeah well, there is a good chance that this guy might not know what he is doing considering he didn't even bother weighting the rear of the rig in order to off-set the front. Either that or he is WAY stronger than he looks. A fully equiped Scarlet-X is pretty heavy.


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Jul 06, 2012 03:19 |  #4

Wow, overkill much? Someone get that guy a 2/3"er


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Jul 06, 2012 14:43 |  #5

Yea weird choice of setup...

RED camera, Redrock Micro mattebox and Red People operating it! lol Im seeing a growing theme here.

That being said what a terrible shoulder rig! They couldnt have sprung for the rest of the shoulder rig from Redrock Micro? Man does that setup look uncomfortable!


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Jul 06, 2012 20:10 |  #6

clearly hes making an artsy documentary about bokeh probably lol




  
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Jul 07, 2012 04:48 |  #7

Kento wrote in post #14672746 (external link)
Yeah well, there is a good chance that this guy might not know what he is doing considering he didn't even bother weighting the rear of the rig in order to off-set the front. Either that or he is WAY stronger than he looks. A fully equiped Scarlet-X is pretty heavy.

I've never shot video and don't ever see myself doing it but the first thing that came to mind when I saw this was "where's the counterweight?". :lol:

I know it's hot out and all but wouldn't something like a Glidecam X10 kit be a better choice for following someone around? I imagine somebody rents them out if you don't want to purchase one.


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Jul 07, 2012 10:28 |  #8

Kento wrote in post #14672746 (external link)
Yeah well, there is a good chance that this guy might not know what he is doing considering he didn't even bother weighting the rear of the rig in order to off-set the front.

I wondered that as well for choosing that improperly rigged camera for what is essentially an ENG assignment.

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Jul 07, 2012 10:32 |  #9

Brian_R wrote in post #14681374 (external link)
clearly hes making an artsy documentary about bokeh probably lol

I have followed many a politician with a camcorder and I can assure you the footage one gets might be suitable for making a documentary on bullcrap, but not much more. ;-)a

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Jul 07, 2012 10:36 |  #10

ben_r_ wrote in post #14679960 (external link)
RED camera, Redrock Micro mattebox and Red People operating it! lol Im seeing a growing theme here.

And maybe the guy being videoed is a Republican campaigning in a “red” state. ;-)a

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Jul 07, 2012 22:14 |  #11

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I have followed many a politician with a camcorder and I can assure you the footage one gets might be suitable for making a documentary on bullcrap, but not much more. ;-)a

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lol ok. clearly i was kidding and you missed it.

if hes shooting for TV all he needs is a decent 2/3incher anyway. if hes shooting a documentary still doesnt need a red. everyone agrees its overkill.

as much as a documentary on politics is nothing more than bullcrap you cant deny how many dumb people will waste money on it. therefore its profitable crap ;)

also photo #2 is the face you make when you realize you forgot the counterweight for your shoulder rig




  
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Jul 07, 2012 22:20 |  #12
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I don't get it... it's not like they aren't used every day?!?! What's so weird about seeing one being used?

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Jul 08, 2012 07:20 |  #13

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I don't get it... it's not like they aren't used every day?!?! What's so weird about seeing one being used?

It's not only about what you use; but how you use it as well. With any camera that doesn't look like this-

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You need to configure it so that it at least resembles one, if you intend to hand-hold it while shooting.

You can comfortably hold a camera, like the one pictured, on your shoulder for extended periods of time, with the added bonuses of:
- Deeper DoF for easier focusing.
- Huge zoom range.
- Long recording times.
- High quality 4ch audio recoding.
- Waveform and vector scope without the need of an external monitor.

And the final system price ends up being fairly similar, the camera pictured above will run you about $33,000 minimum, which isn't out of line with a Scarlet in the configuration posted by the OP.

Horses for courses I say... the Scarlet can do 4K, slo-mo, RAW, and so on, but it has to be used rather methodically. The HPX3100 pictured will only render a 1080p image at standard frame rates, but it will do so perfectly and you don't need to reconfigure it when the shooting situation changes.

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Jul 08, 2012 08:22 |  #14

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lol ok. clearly i was kidding and you missed it.

I didn't miss it I just have a odd sense of humor.

as much as a documentary on politics is nothing more than bullcrap you cant deny how many dumb people will waste money on it. therefore its profitable crap



Oh I understand that, a substantial quantity of the work I do is politics or political in nature.

also photo #2 is the face you make when you realize you forgot the counterweight for your shoulder rig



Never had a need to make a face like that as I utilize a camcorder that can be carried all day long with very little stress, physical stress that is. ;-)a

I do like shot three though, it's reassuring to know if one spends all that money on a rig like that the viewfinder can double as a head scratcher.

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Jul 08, 2012 08:35 |  #15

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I do like shot three though, it's reassuring to know if one spends all that money on a rig like that the viewfinder can double as a head scratcher.

:lol:

...wish my VF had 720p though, where are the HD viewfinders?!

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