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Prime vs Zoom : 24-70 vs 50 1.2

 
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Jul 05, 2012 01:18 |  #1

Sorry if this question has been asked before. I guess I am having one of those mid life crisis situations where I just can't seem to decide :confused:

With a few more photo shoots, I'll be able to finally purchase a used lens. Originally, I've been looking at the 24-70 and replacing the 17-40 with it. In the mean time though, I've been using my 50 1.8 and have been having much fun with it. Though it's a bit longer on a 1.3x body, the fov feels right for me and having to use your feet to get a right compo seems to get me better shots.

I've noticed that a 24-70 and the 50 1.2 go for about the same price used (still hate the fact that it is $1200-$1500 CAD for a used one!) depending on the seller. So what's better - primes or versatility?

Would appreciate all the input or in the other words - HELPPPPPPP!!!!!

*edit - I guess it would help to list what do I shoot. I'm in school for photoj so it really varies.



  
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Jul 05, 2012 01:25 |  #2

MrNothing wrote in post #14672292 (external link)
*edit - I guess it would help to list what do I shoot. I'm in school for photoj so it really varies.


Get the 24-70 then, mainly for versatility.


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Jul 05, 2012 01:34 |  #3

I have to agree, while a fast 50 is a great lens to have, with what will be expected of you, having a 24-70 on an APS-H body makes a whole lot of sense.


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Jul 05, 2012 01:45 as a reply to  @ Bond_Savingsbond's post |  #4

The 50 f1.4 is no slouch, and way cheaper. The 50 f1.2 approaches "exhotic" territory by comparison.

I've never used the 24-70 but I suspect it earns every penny as a top quality versitile workhorse with f2.8 giving a taste of "artsy".

Also; the 50 f1.2 is hardly a 17-40 replacement. Totally different. In that sense, more expensive because you won't be funding it from the 17-40 sale.


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Jul 05, 2012 01:55 |  #5
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Bond_Savingsbond wrote in post #14672305 (external link)
Get the 24-70 then, mainly for versatility.

+1. Can't beat the versatility when you shoot anything everything.


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Jul 05, 2012 04:05 |  #6

How about Tamron 24-70 + Canon or Sigma 50 f1.4? Might be a similar price to 24-70L?


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Jul 05, 2012 07:49 |  #7

kobeson wrote in post #14672630 (external link)
How about Tamron 24-70 + Canon or Sigma 50 f1.4? Might be a similar price to 24-70L?

I was considering the Tamron 24-70 vc especially for it's price but seeing some reviews I saw that overall the Canon was the better variant. As for the Sigma - again, something I considered very much but thought if I were to go for a 50mm I would rather make the big jump to the L glass.

So far so good. Really do appreciate the help coming in. I do see that the 24-70 is the more popular choice :D I guess my counter-argument for the 50 L is that I like the idea of working on one focal length and having to kind of keep a heads up that because you don't have versatility, getting a correct composition is key. Any other possible counters for the 50?



  
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Jul 05, 2012 08:18 |  #8

Sure. The 50L can be more creative or allow low light shots when shooting at f1.2. Of course it can be stopped down to f2.8 or further if you don't want/need to shoot wide open. Whereas f2.8 on the 24-70 is as wide as it can go.


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Jul 05, 2012 08:23 |  #9

And if you kind of want both but can live with a zoom without USM (or HSM in Sigmas case), consider finding a used Sigma 24-60mm f2.8. They're not that expensive and might be a way to have your fast prime and an f2.8 zoom too.


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Jul 05, 2012 09:38 |  #10

I owned 24-70L (sold to replace with Tamron 24-70 VC) and 50L and mostly use the Zoom for outdoor and walkaround but would love to have 50L with FF for indoor and sometimes outdoor for portrait.


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Jul 05, 2012 10:00 |  #11

24-70 f2.8 II still plenty of time to save. :)




  
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Jul 05, 2012 10:43 |  #12

MrNothing wrote in post #14672292 (external link)
...I've noticed that a 24-70 and the 50 1.2 go for about the same price used (still hate the fact that it is $1200-$1500 CAD for a used one!) depending on the seller. So what's better - primes or versatility?

I own both 24-70L and 50L. They are two completely different tools. Once you learn how to use the 50L, there is no looking back to 24-70L (I have been thinking about replacing it with a 24L II).


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Jul 05, 2012 17:21 |  #13

yalemba wrote in post #14673674 (external link)
I own both 24-70L and 50L. They are two completely different tools. Once you learn how to use the 50L, there is no looking back to 24-70L (I have been thinking about replacing it with a 24L II).

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Thinking about doing the same. Return back to the 24L, this time a mk2. Maybe in a few years ill return back to a 24-70mk2.


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Jul 05, 2012 18:13 |  #14

kevEOS wrote in post #14675445 (external link)
Its me again. You read my mind again. Thinking about doing the same. Return back to the 24L, this time a mk2. Maybe in a few years ill return back to a 24-70mk2.

Great photographers think alike :-) Actually, 24-70 II is the only reason why I have not yet ordered the 24L. I'd like to see if 24-70 II is as good as my 70-200 II...


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Jul 05, 2012 19:12 |  #15

MrNothing wrote in post #14673004 (external link)
I was considering the Tamron 24-70 vc especially for it's price but seeing some reviews I saw that overall the Canon was the better variant. As for the Sigma - again, something I considered very much but thought if I were to go for a 50mm I would rather make the big jump to the L glass.

So far so good. Really do appreciate the help coming in. I do see that the 24-70 is the more popular choice :D I guess my counter-argument for the 50 L is that I like the idea of working on one focal length and having to kind of keep a heads up that because you don't have versatility, getting a correct composition is key. Any other possible counters for the 50?

Sounds like you really want the 50L, then thats what you'll have to get then:D
I started out having alot of fun with the 50 1.8 too. The rendering of an image on the 50L is something the 24-70L could never do. Zooming, well, God gave me feet:D
It's my fave and the one i have the most fun with.


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