Hey guys,
I got a quick question. I've seen most star photographers attach their flash to the side of their lens instead in the traditional top mount, why is that, what is the benefit?
If I was looking for one, what's a good one to get?
thanks
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rickp1 Senior Member 513 posts Joined Apr 2009 More info | Jul 05, 2012 13:38 | #1 Hey guys, Canon 5DMkII | 70-200mm f2.8 IS USM | 24-105mm f4.0 IS USM | 85mm f1.8 prime.
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Saint728 Goldmember 2,892 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jun 2009 Location: Honolulu Hawaii More info | Jul 05, 2012 15:31 | #2 Its usually on the side because when you shoot in portrait mode the flash will be on top of the camera. You can still use it in landscape mode but the flash is on the right side of your camera instead of on top. I use the Custom Brackets CB Mini-RC Camera & Flash Bracket. Its really compact and its made solid so it feels nice attached to the camera. Canon EOS 1Ds Mark III | 17-40mm f/4.0L | 70-200mm f/2.8L USM | 100mm f/2.8L IS Macro | 300mm f/4.0L IS
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Phototeacher Senior Member 262 posts Likes: 1 Joined May 2007 More info | Jul 05, 2012 15:59 | #3 From what I understand, the flip type bracket becomes unwieldly to use in the crowd of photographers in a "red carpet" type situation, and the side mount is easier to handle. As Patrick (Saint728) said, it also puts the flash on top for verticals, which are most common for this type of work. For most users, the flip bracket he describes is more versatile. I like the Custom Brackets Junior model; small and relatively lightweight.
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Whortleberry Goldmember 1,719 posts Likes: 53 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Yorkshire, England More info | Jul 05, 2012 16:33 | #4 I like the Custom Brackets Junior model; small and relatively lightweight. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._Rotating.html Me too, although they aren't quite as good as when they first came out. Phil ǁ Kershaw Soho Reflex: 4¼" Ross Xpres, 6½" Aldis, Super XX/ABC Pyro in 24 DDS, HP3/Meritol Metol in RFH, Johnson 'Scales' brand flash powder. Kodak Duo Six-20/Verichrome Pan. Other odd bits over the decades, simply to get the job done - not merely to polish and brag about cos I'm too mean to buy the polish!
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Jul 05, 2012 16:47 | #5 Ok, so it's not for any special benefit on how the light hits the subject or anything like that? Canon 5DMkII | 70-200mm f2.8 IS USM | 24-105mm f4.0 IS USM | 85mm f1.8 prime.
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Whortleberry Goldmember 1,719 posts Likes: 53 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Yorkshire, England More info | Jul 05, 2012 17:46 | #6 I don't think that the equipment (or, indeed, the behaviour) of members of the press 'scrum' (scrimmage in the US?) is really any form of parameter by which to gauge what is or isn't good. It's sheer expedience what they use and how they configure it. Any picture is better than no picture and the way most likely to guarantee at least something is the way to go. In that situation. Phil ǁ Kershaw Soho Reflex: 4¼" Ross Xpres, 6½" Aldis, Super XX/ABC Pyro in 24 DDS, HP3/Meritol Metol in RFH, Johnson 'Scales' brand flash powder. Kodak Duo Six-20/Verichrome Pan. Other odd bits over the decades, simply to get the job done - not merely to polish and brag about cos I'm too mean to buy the polish!
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Jul 05, 2012 18:17 | #7 Whortleberry wrote in post #14675552 I don't think that the equipment (or, indeed, the behaviour) of members of the press 'scrum' (scrimmage in the US?) is really any form of parameter by which to gauge what is or isn't good. It's sheer expedience what they use and how they configure it. Any picture is better than no picture and the way most likely to guarantee at least something is the way to go. In that situation. Back in the 1930s, Weegee declared "f/16 and be there". Much the same still applies. To be honest, I can;t comment on it either way. I think most are under the same agreement about their shameless behavior. I was just interested on how they have their gear setup and possibly learn about any advantages in IQ or technique if any, that's all. The few events I've seen (all on TV BTW) showed all of them setup the same way, flash on the side not on top, so naturally I was curious about it. Canon 5DMkII | 70-200mm f2.8 IS USM | 24-105mm f4.0 IS USM | 85mm f1.8 prime.
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BeachcomberJoe Senior Member 466 posts Likes: 3 Joined Jan 2010 Location: Southwest Florida More info | Jul 05, 2012 21:57 | #8 rickp1 wrote in post #14675297 Ok, so it's not for any special benefit on how the light hits the subject or anything like that? The rotating brackets provide special benefit, at least for event photographers. I can't comment on paparazzi types. The bracket keeps the flash centered above the lens for control of shadows. The extra height above the lens helps eliminate red eye. I use a bracket like this one: http://www.bhphotovideo.com …_Camera_Flip_Bracket.html
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v35skyline Goldmember 3,572 posts Likes: 16 Joined Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, CA More info | Jul 05, 2012 22:37 | #9 What's been mentioned is one reason. Another is to achieve the so-called "Terry Richardson" style. X100s | X-Pro1 | X-T1 | XF 14 | XF 18 | XF 35 | XF 56 | XF 60 | XF 10-24
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Jul 06, 2012 11:26 | #10 v35skyline wrote in post #14676773 What's been mentioned is one reason. Another is to achieve the so-called "Terry Richardson" style. SOrry, I'm not familiar with this, can you elaborate, if you don't mind? Canon 5DMkII | 70-200mm f2.8 IS USM | 24-105mm f4.0 IS USM | 85mm f1.8 prime.
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c2thew Goldmember 3,929 posts Likes: 4 Joined Aug 2008 Location: Not enough minerals. More info | Jul 06, 2012 12:12 | #11 rickp1 wrote in post #14678976 SOrry, I'm not familiar with this, can you elaborate, if you don't mind? Thanks http://www.terrysdiary.com/page/3 Flickr
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JoeRavenstein Goldmember 2,338 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2010 Location: E Tx More info | Jul 06, 2012 12:42 | #12 I found many moons ago that by moving the flash off to the side you reduce the glowing red eye effect. Canon 60D,18-55mm,55-250mm,50mm compact macro, AF ext tubes. Sigma 8-16mm uwa, 18-250mm, 85mm F1.4, 150-500mm
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Whortleberry Goldmember 1,719 posts Likes: 53 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Yorkshire, England More info | Jul 06, 2012 15:08 | #13 It's not the moving the flash off to the side which reduces red eye, it's moving it off the camera/subject axis in any direction. Even downwards, if you really insist. Phil ǁ Kershaw Soho Reflex: 4¼" Ross Xpres, 6½" Aldis, Super XX/ABC Pyro in 24 DDS, HP3/Meritol Metol in RFH, Johnson 'Scales' brand flash powder. Kodak Duo Six-20/Verichrome Pan. Other odd bits over the decades, simply to get the job done - not merely to polish and brag about cos I'm too mean to buy the polish!
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Jul 06, 2012 20:06 | #14 Joe Ravenstein wrote in post #14679343 I found many moons ago that by moving the flash off to the side you reduce the glowing red eye effect. Red eye is only reduced to moving the axis of the flash head farther from the lens optical axis! You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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