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If Canon made this 105-200 f/4 IS lens would you buy it?

 
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Jul 05, 2012 19:16 |  #31

Snydremark wrote in post #14675856 (external link)
Have you actually put them side by side (external link)? The f/4 is NOTABLY smaller and narrower, as well as lighter than the 2.8...

Still a good bit longer than the 24-105 and the (consumer) 70-300 IS and other lenses whose barrels extend and longer (I believe) than the 200 f/2.8.

But, I suppose if they could make it the way I want maybe they would have.

And yes I have had the two 70-200s side by side.




  
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Jul 05, 2012 19:34 |  #32

Nope.


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Jul 05, 2012 19:46 |  #33

LowriderS10 wrote in post #14675985 (external link)
Nope.

Seems to be the consensus.

I just sent a memo to my guys to stop working on it...




  
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Jul 05, 2012 20:39 |  #34

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OK. So let's say your only lens is the 24-105. Would you at least give some thought to buying the 105-200 f/4 IS rather than the 70-200 f/4 IS if it cost at least $200 less than the 70-200 f/4 IS? And assuming the 105-200 is black?

Regarding the length, no it would not have to be as long as the 70-200 series. The barrel would just extend like the 24-105 and like the 70-300 (non-L) IS.

The 70-300L also extends, I was referring to the max size of the lens extended.


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Jul 05, 2012 20:42 |  #35

in the end i think the 35mm difference wouldn't really be that big of a difference in size...so i don't see why anyone would want it over the 70-200f4IS...


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Jul 05, 2012 21:13 |  #36

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The 70-300L also extends, I was referring to the max size of the lens extended.

Yikes I am very aware of the fact that the 70-300L also extends!

So, what?

Trim off the 70 to 104. Trim off the 201 to 300. Get rid of the white color. Keep the L glass. As the Stones would say, Paint It Black!

Make it smaller and lighter.

It can't be done. I am fine with that. But that wasn't the question.

The question was if they made one, would you buy it? And would you buy it if you had the 24-105 f/4 and if you had not already bought the 70-200 f/4 IS? No one answered the question until the "Nope" a few responses ago. And I appreciate the direct answer!




  
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Jul 05, 2012 21:44 as a reply to  @ post 14675405 |  #37

Nope, I would not buy it...

If you are so anal about a "white" lens, simply cover it with a black sock or a black lenscoat.

The "white" lens doesn't bother me a bit.

The 70-200mm f/4L IS lens is a lot lighter in weight than a 70-200mm f/2.8 (series).

I don't think that subtracting 35mm from the f/4L IS lens would make it a lot lighter.


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Jul 05, 2012 22:23 |  #38

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Nope, I would not buy it...

If you are so anal about a "white" lens, simply cover it with a black sock or a black lenscoat.

The "white" lens doesn't bother me a bit.

The 70-200mm f/4L IS lens is a lot lighter in weight than a 70-200mm f/2.8 (series).

I don't think that subtracting 35mm from the f/4L IS lens would make it a lot lighter.

I love my white lens. Try to think out of the box once in a while. Keeps the conversation lively - not anal.




  
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Jul 05, 2012 23:07 |  #39

You a young kid, if 70-200mm f2.8 weight is problem right now, I don't know what to say. Attention why folks worry so much unless you guys taking some sneaky kind of shots. Some one wants to steal use that big lens to hit them on the head or just give it away like me as I got insurnace (darn cheap IMHO). White lenses work so much better, let folks move away and shoot. :)


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Jul 06, 2012 07:20 |  #40

I don't get it, there is already the 70-200 f/4 IS, why would you want to cut the focal length range?


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Jul 06, 2012 07:45 |  #41

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I don't get it, there is already the 70-200 f/4 IS, why would you want to cut the focal length range?

Well, in response to the question I initially posed, "Am I nuts?", the answer seems to be a unanimous "Yes"!!!

But in response to your question - and that of others - would it not make sense that a smaller, lighter, shorter lens with less range that did not have a fixed barrel might actually cost less?

I am amazed Canon released the 24 and 28 f/2.8 IS lenses. I figured no one would be interested. The jury is still out on those. I was surprised at the release of the 70-300 L when they already had a perfectly fine 100-400 that just needs updating and they have some really excellent 70-200 lenses already.

The fine L, the 24-70 pairs well with any of the 70-200 lenses.

The not so fine 17-85 and much better 15-85 paired well with the also not perfect 70-300 IS (non-L).

I was trying to think of a nice kit that the 24-105 would work with without the overlap and without the - for some folks - unnecessary 200-300 range.

How could a 105-200 f/4 IS L not cost at least $250 less than the 70-200 f/4 IS with its fixed barrel and additional range of 70-104?

But, again, the question was - if it could be made - would you buy it? Clearly not if you already have the 70-200 f/4 IS. But I don't think owning a 70-200 f/2.8 IS (which I own and love) would prohibit people from buying the 105-200 for situations where 2.8 is not needed and where a smaller kit was desired.

The color of the lens would be on the bottom of the list of reasons to buy it. But people do seem infatuated with the color discussion.




  
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Jul 06, 2012 08:30 |  #42

If you want a smaller, black, zoom that encompasses 200mm and something shorter, consider the 70-210. It is currently about $1200 cheaper than the 70-200 f/4 IS, and $2,0000+ cheaper than the 2.8II. Seems right up your alley!




  
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Jul 06, 2012 08:35 |  #43

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If you want a smaller, black, zoom that encompasses 200mm and something shorter, consider the 70-210. It is currently about $1200 cheaper than the 70-200 f/4 IS, and $2,0000+ cheaper than the 2.8II. Seems right up your alley!

Well, let's see:

It's not L glass. It's not an f/4. It has the unnecessary 70-104.

It's old technology.

It's a consumer lens.

Not sure how that lens figures into the discussion to find an equal to pair with the 24-105.




  
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Jul 06, 2012 08:58 |  #44

Eastport wrote in post #14675747 (external link)
OK. So let's say your only lens is the 24-105. Would you at least give some thought to buying the 105-200 f/4 IS rather than the 70-200 f/4 IS if it cost at least $200 less than the 70-200 f/4 IS? And assuming the 105-200 is black?

Regarding the length, no it would not have to be as long as the 70-200 series. The barrel would just extend like the 24-105 and like the 70-300 (non-L) IS.

I still wouldn't consider it. I like the focal length overlap, the white color doesn't bother me, and I find the lens quite light compared to my 100-400L.


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Jul 06, 2012 11:00 |  #45

Eastport wrote in post #14678159 (external link)
Well, let's see:
It's not L glass. It's not an f/4. It has the unnecessary 70-104.
It's old technology.
It's a consumer lens.
Not sure how that lens figures into the discussion to find an equal to pair with the 24-105.

OK, you are correct. I guess my wife complaining about all the money I spend on this stuff is started to get to me. Sorry. But, hey. It is cheap!




  
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