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rebel xs lens versus T3i lens?

 
Joe ­ Cannon
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Jul 06, 2012 18:45 |  #1

Hello to all,

Quick question: What is the difference between the Rebel XS lens and the T3i lens? They both start off with the same description (EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS) but the T3i has the added roman numeral "II" at the end of it. Thanks for any clarification...

Joe

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Jul 06, 2012 18:47 |  #2

There isn't a whole lot of difference. The 18-55IS II is a newer model that replaced the 18-55IS.




  
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Jul 06, 2012 18:48 |  #3

Hi and welcome to the forum!

It's just because it's a newer lens. For example, some people have a 70-200mm f/2.8. Canon then made the exact same lens, but a new version with various improvements, and that lens would have 70-200mm f/2.8 II written on the lens. Many lenses have successors, just meaning a new and improved version.


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Jul 06, 2012 19:02 |  #4

There are no improvements with the EF-S 18-55mm IS Mk II over the previous model. Only cosmetic changes.

http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/canoneos600d (external link)

The 600D gets a 'new' kit lens, the EF-S 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 IS II. According to Canon this is identical in specification to the previous version, and features exactly the same optics and IS system: it simply has a revised external design. The visible changes suggest a paring down of production costs, for example the 'white square' alignment mark for mounting the lens is now simply painted on, rather than moulded.

Here is what the new 18-55mm IS II looks like beside the original 18-55 IS .

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Jul 06, 2012 19:19 |  #5

Thanks for the replies. I am a two year owner of a Rebel XS (which I have enjoyed). I upgraded today to a Rebel T3i. The reason was because I switched over to an iMac (from a PC) and I purchased a new editing program (Final Cut Pro X). So I needed a new video camera to use with Final Cut Pro and I had a number of people using FCP recommend the T3i. So basically, I went out and acquired a new computer, new camera and a new editing program. And now, true to my dysfunctional self, I will learn how to use them all. Dysfunctionally of course.

Oh yeah, and the reason I asked is because I guess I could have bought the T3i body only and used the lens from my Rebel XS? That would have saved me some benjamins...

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Jul 06, 2012 20:13 |  #6

You could have...but this way you can sell your XS as a body and lens package (which I would do pronto, if I were you).


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Jul 06, 2012 20:53 |  #7

Entry level cameras tend to sell better with a lens than without. Most that are considering a used Rebel want a lens along with it. No lens usually means no or little interest. In my opinion, if you get a kit lens- keep it around to sell with the body later. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the body only is worth $450, and you outright replaced your kit lens with a $600 lens. The person looking for an used entry level camera with a lens- well- he is not likely wanting to spend $450 for the camera without a lens, nor will they likely want to spend $1050 for the body with a better lens- because- in their minds- it is not worth it- yet. Now, throw that 18-55 on there instead, and sell it for $550- deal... OK, it's all hypothetical- but the point is- an entry level camera with a lens is more attractive than an entry level camera without a lens.

I will also add, I would think that most noobs interested in their first DSLR are more interested in having a ZOOM lens over having a prime. A 18-55 zoom lens is more attractive to them than a 50mm f/1.8 lens is. Want proof- what lens is typically bundled with entry level cameras - directly from Canon- hint: it is not the 50mm f/1.8 - now is it ? As a matter of fact, every DSLR combo, from the entry level cameras to the highest end cameras- all that I know of- are zooms of one sort or another- coming from Canon.


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Jul 06, 2012 23:28 |  #8

Thanks for the replies. I already have an offer for my rebel xs (with lens). I didn't realize that there is some limited auto-focus capabilities of the T3i (in video mode). Still, it seems that people are very happy with it. But they are using manual mode. I don't know how to use a camera manually for video. I may have to take a course. I am starting to think I made a mistake. Did I? I mean, how difficult is it to learn manual focusing for recording video on the T3i?




  
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Jul 07, 2012 09:51 as a reply to  @ Joe Cannon's post |  #9

Mark-II models are not always better than the originals. As an example, the 50mm f/1.8 Mk-II is inferior to the original 50mm f/1.8 Mk-I lens...


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Jul 07, 2012 10:16 |  #10

The Rebel XS can stand up against any other Canon crop sensor. It's a great camera with a fantastic sensor. Someday people will be looking for them or dreaming of the day when Canon will go back to less mp.

My opinion.

My only complaint about the XS was 1.5fps in raw.


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Jul 07, 2012 10:24 |  #11

I believe the version II of this lens incorporated slightly better IS algorithms. I use the old one and have no problems with it.




  
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Jul 07, 2012 11:20 as a reply to  @ sambarino's post |  #12

Thanks again for the replies. I agree about the rebel xs... it has been a solid camera for me for pictures. Of those who own a t3i here, how difficult will it be to learn how to focus in video mode? Also, does anyone have any suggestions for a video tutorial which teaches this? I am still interested in learning how to use this camera. The feedback of those that understand how to use it is quite very positive... Should I be posting this question on a different forum thread? Thanks again to all...

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Jul 07, 2012 11:23 |  #13

Joe Cannon wrote in post #14683503 (external link)
Thanks again for the replies. I agree about the rebel xs... it has been a solid camera for me for pictures. Of those who own a t3i here, how difficult will it be to learn how to focus in video mode? Also, does anyone have any suggestions for a video tutorial which teaches this? I am still interested in learning how to use this camera. The feedback of those that understand how to use it is quite very positive... Should I be posting this question on a different forum thread? Thanks again to all...

Joe

You may want to consider the T4i. I believe it has better AF in video mode, specifically with the new STM lenses.




  
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Jul 07, 2012 18:27 |  #14

Thanks, I'll take a look..




  
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Jul 07, 2012 19:12 |  #15

sambarino wrote in post #14683348 (external link)
I believe the version II of this lens incorporated slightly better IS algorithms. I use the old one and have no problems with it.

i believe you're making that up... :)


the only difference between the lenses is cosmetic...as for how to MF...practicing will be the easiest way to learn...


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