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Jul 08, 2012 06:04 |  #16

DreDaze wrote in post #14685012 (external link)
i believe you're making that up... :)


the only difference between the lenses is cosmetic...as for how to MF...practicing will be the easiest way to learn...

I am not making it up. That is not to say that I am not totally mistaken, however! I do believe I read that on 'the-digital-picture.com'.




  
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Jul 08, 2012 06:16 |  #17

I wonder if there's any significance in the omission of "made in Japan" from the II version? Perhaps it's made in Taiwan instead of Japan.


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Jul 08, 2012 08:07 |  #18

sambarino wrote in post #14686603 (external link)
I am not making it up. That is not to say that I am not totally mistaken, however! I do believe I read that on 'the-digital-picture.com'.

Canon published this quote with the press release of the new 18-55 IS II:

http://www.canon.com …f_s18-55_35-56_is_ii.html (external link)

Furthermore, the EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II includes an optimized control algorithm that has been aligned with the Image Stabilizer structure and characteristics, achieving image stabilization equivalent to approximately four shutter-speed stops.*

If you read between the lines, nowhere in the quote does it say that the original 18-55 IS doesn't have the same "optimized control algorithm". It doesn't say "new and improved optimized control algorithm." It just says the lens has a control algorithm that is optimized for that particular lens. (as all lenses do)

It think it is just creative marketing hype because both versions of the 18-55 IS have same 4 stops of IS. There was also mention of panning ability with IS on for the II version but the manual for both versions say you can pan with IS on so no change there either.

What they are really saying is: "We wanted to make a slightly cheaper version with simplified external cosmetics so we called it a "II" and creatively told you something about the same old a 4-stop IS."


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Jul 08, 2012 08:43 |  #19

runninmann wrote in post #14686618 (external link)
I wonder if there's any significance in the omission of "made in Japan" from the II version? Perhaps it's made in Taiwan instead of Japan.

There is no difference in the quality of the lens if it is made in Taiwan. The first versions of the MK I had "Made in Japan" printed on the front of the lens,
but later versions of the MK I moved the country of manufacture to the rear lens mount.

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Lenses without "Made in Japan" on the front of the lens, will have either "Made in Japan" or "Made in Taiwan" on the rear lens mount.

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Jul 08, 2012 08:56 |  #20

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There is no difference in the quality of the lens if it is made in Taiwan. The first versions had "Made in Japan" printed on the front of the lens, but later versions moved the country of manufacture to the rear lens mount.
Lenses without "Made in Japan" on the front of the lens, will have either "Made in Japan" or "Made in Taiwan" on the rear lens mount.

I wasn't implying that there is a difference in quality, I was speculating that perhaps the manufacturing location is a difference between the versions.

It would be interesting to know if all version I were manufactured in Japan and now that the version II are manufactured in both countries, that is why they moved the designation to the rear of the lens.


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Jul 08, 2012 09:35 |  #21

runninmann wrote in post #14686977 (external link)
I wasn't implying that there is a difference in quality, I was speculating that perhaps the manufacturing location is a difference between the versions.

It would be interesting to know if all version I were manufactured in Japan and now that the version II are manufactured in both countries, that is why they moved the designation to the rear of the lens.


The original "I" was manufactured both in Japan and Taiwan. I should have clarified that later versions of the "I" were made both in Japan and Taiwan. (I didn't mean Mk II when I said later versions)


I can't say for sure but I bet all the II's are made in Taiwan.

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Jul 08, 2012 12:46 |  #22

sambarino wrote in post #14686603 (external link)
I am not making it up. That is not to say that I am not totally mistaken, however! I do believe I read that on 'the-digital-picture.com'.

***** RETRACTION *****

I re-read the review cited above. I was mistaken. I retract the statement above AND my previous comment about the difference between version I & II of this lens. Please disregard them.




  
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Jul 08, 2012 13:21 |  #23

You probably did read it on "The-Digital-Picture.com"

EF-S 18-55mm IS II review: http://www.the-digital-picture.com ….6-IS-II-Lens-Review.aspx (external link)

As I said in the beginning of the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II Lens review, the "II" replaces the "I". "The version II of this lens includes new IS algorithms to distinguish between normal photographing and when the camera is panning to automatically provide the optimal level of image-shake correction."

They were just repeating what they read in the Canon Press release of Feb 07 2011 http://www.usa.canon.c​om …il&docId=0901e0​248028433f (external link)

The version II of this lens includes new IS algorithms to distinguish between normal photographing and when the camera is panning to automatically provide the optimal level of image-shake correction.

Unfortunately, it is misleading because Version I of this lens also included the same "new IS algorithms to distinguish between normal photographing and when the camera is panning to automatically provide the optimal level of image-shake correction."

Aug 2007 Canon Press Release: http://www.dpreview.co​m …onefs18-55and55-250#press (external link)

Canon’s latest optical Image Stabilizer (IS) technology provides up to 4-stop compensation for image blur caused by camera shake and slow shutter speeds. Photographers normally shooting handheld at 1/250 sec can switch on IS to obtain a similarly steady and blur-free result with a shutter speed of just 1/15 second. The inclusion of automatic panning detection makes it easier for photographers to track wildlife and other moving subjects. To ensure consistently accurate results at all zoom positions, the IS system within each lens has been optimised for that lens’ specific focal length range. Since the IS system is based within the lens, the results are visible through the viewfinder when framing the image.


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