It's Already 2AM: 30th Edition... Momma said if we keep doing this we'll go blind.

smcclelland wrote in post #14814618
Micro 4/3 sensors are extremely tiny and much, much smaller than APS-C sensors. f0.95 on a 35mm sensor gives you insanely shallow DOF and even on APS-C you're getting good isolation but on a m4/3 sensor the you don't get as much of the shallow effect. The OM-D + 75mm f1.8 lens for example produces some nice DOF but compared to say a 135 f2 on a D800 or 5D2/3 the bokeh will be harsher and more busy with more DOF.

M9's just eat up those kinds of lenses though you need a 4 or 8-stop ND just to shoot it wide open during the day

Not exactly. Micro 4/3 refers to the body depth, not to the sensor size. The M4/3 sensor is the same size as the DSLR 4/3 - 17.3 mm x 13 mm for a crop factor of 2, instead of the APS-C 1.5-1.6. And bokeh isn't a factor of the sensor; it's strictly the lens design. Saying the OM 75 1.8 doesn't have the same bokeh as a 135 f/2 on a D800 or 5D2 (and whose 135 f/2? They aren't all the same.) just ignores that distinction. Put the 135 f/2 on a 4/3 body (assuming an available adapter) will show the same bokeh (not DoF, unless you crop the larger image to match, but bokeh) as it would on an APS-C or a 24x36 mm "FF".

*sigh* wrote in post #14814729
Fuji is just so expensive... If i was going 4/3 I'd go EOS-M right now... strictly because of the ability to use EF lenses with little issue.

Though I'm holding out for full reviews before making my decision.

EOS-M isn't 4/3; it's the standard Canon APS-C 1.6 Crop Factor. Same as the Digital Rebels, 10-60D and 7D.

*sigh* wrote in post #14814737
Im going to meet a few people from work for drinks and such, but we're going at 5 and I think the plan was to be on the patio at the place we're going.

It's like 105F out... Ugh.

Get colder beer.

Anyone here bought any used items from Adorama before? Looking at a lens currently but there's no images of the lens and I'm just curious if they usually provide images of the lenses.

smcclelland wrote in post #14814784
A few things

1. APS-C sensor. X-Trans has the resolving power of a 24mp 35mm sensor so detail is great.
2. Lenses. The fact I can drop some Leica glass on it with a 1.5x focal length increase is similar to that of an M8 vs the Oly's 2.0. The Fuji 35mm f1.4 is also stellar.
3. RF styling. When you set the Fuji down and grab a Leica M you're not fumbling everywhere for things. The styling is very similar though Leica has better menu/layout.
4. OVF. What can I say I love the OVF and the fact I can frame my scene without having to really look right through the lens. I use the EVF to really dial in focus on shots with MF lenses but zone focusing and the OVF is fantastic.

I agree that the Fuji is definitely priced a bit higher than the other options but for $1700 on a camera that beats the piss IQ wise out of my old 7D which cost me the same when I bought it... worth it imo

You mean the Fuji X1pro?

smcclelland wrote in post #14814981
Anyone here bought any used items from Adorama before? Looking at a lens currently but there's no images of the lens and I'm just curious if they usually provide images of the lenses.

Yup, you get 90 days coverage and can buy a 2 year coverage from them (not sure how great it really is though :confused. AFAIK if you call them up I'm sure they would be able to tell you more though.

smcclelland wrote in post #14814981
Anyone here bought any used items from Adorama before? Looking at a lens currently but there's no images of the lens and I'm just curious if they usually provide images of the lenses.

B&H doesn't.

I purchased used paper from them a couple weeks ago. Seems decent enough, I think I was a bit short on the 500 sheets advertised though. Some of the sheets may have curled corners and will mis feed in the printer. They even used white out on some of the sheets, I half expected to have to do that myself. I would probably go used again.

pixiepearls wrote in post #14815023
B&H doesn't.

WHOAAA no one asked about B&h

pixiepearls wrote in post #14815020
You mean the Fuji X1pro?

Yeah I have the X-Pro 1 and the X100. Both are fantastic cameras imo.

laxlife1234 wrote in post #14815022
Yup, you get 90 days coverage and can buy a 2 year coverage from them (not sure how great it really is though :confused. AFAIK if you call them up I'm sure they would be able to tell you more though.

Good to know about the 90 day warranty. Because it's an older lens I just want to make sure there's no oil on the blades, fungus inside or anything like that.

pixiepearls wrote in post #14815023
B&H doesn't.

Yeah they seem to post photos of the cameras but haven't seen any images of the lenses.

laxlife1234 wrote in post #14815032
WHOAAA no one asked about B&h

expectations, that was my point

smcclelland wrote in post #14815055
Yeah I have the X-Pro 1 and the X100. Both are fantastic cameras imo.

Good to know about the 90 day warranty. Because it's an older lens I just want to make sure there's no oil on the blades, fungus inside or anything like that.

Yeah they seem to post photos of the cameras but haven't seen any images of the lenses.

oh interesting, my 5D classic was def a stock photo when I ordered it

pixiepearls wrote in post #14815076
oh interesting, my 5D classic was def a stock photo when I ordered it

Haha yeah they do that sometimes as well. I bought a 1D2 years ago that the local shop used a stock photo for and when I arrived it looked like it had been dragged on the back of a car through the Dakkar rally. Not exactly the EX+ quality listed heh.

How's that X100 working out? Pimped it out with soft-releases, straps and other awesome accessories yet?

smcclelland wrote in post #14814981
Anyone here bought any used items from Adorama before? Looking at a lens currently but there's no images of the lens and I'm just curious if they usually provide images of the lenses.

got my t1I from them a few years back, i love the place, Adorama has always done an excellent job and there customer service is great too.

smcclelland wrote in post #14815104
Haha yeah they do that sometimes as well. I bought a 1D2 years ago that the local shop used a stock photo for and when I arrived it looked like it had been dragged on the back of a car through the Dakkar rally. Not exactly the EX+ quality listed heh.

How's that X100 working out? Pimped it out with soft-releases, straps and other awesome accessories yet?

yeah I totally went by the number rating, it was a 9 or an 8+ I think.

I have the special leather case for the camera, love that thing. I want to get one of those eyefi things so I can get pics without taking it out, such a pain. I love keeping it in that case. i do want a soft-release button thingy. That silver lady bug would be SAWEEET but aside from that I don't think I'll get anything extra for it, except that WIDE angle adapter, want that so bad! I like the hood but its a silly price and then I can't use my case, OH i would like some kinda filter for the front so I can leave the lens cap at home, no real need for it with that case, and I think a polarizer might be nice.