T2i Or T3i!!?? I have to decide by tonight!

Daphatty wrote in post #14702830
This. You can find the 55-250 for far less than $230.

Keep in mind he's referring to Canadian, not US dollars

h4ppydaze wrote in post #14702861
both good points - the first one kind of makes me cringe

Me too. The attitude of many who play with floor samples is "that's what its here for" and they aren't very concerned about how they handle it. I recently saw someone in my local Costco trying to rotate the articulating LCD screen of a 60D 180 degrees in the wrong direction and he almost snapped it off before i mentioned it didn't move that way. I got a dirty look as a reward for my intervention.

Saying the t2i and the t3i are the same, 'cept for the flippy screen- is like saying that the t3i and the t4i are the same too, 'cause they have the flippy screen. Just because you would not find a feature useful- does not mean someone else would not. A wise person would visit Canon's website and see what features are new to each model, and maybe read some reviews - like from DPReview on each camera which tends to highlight the newer features. Maybe even read up on how and why you might be interested in those new features. Personally, I would suggest getting whichever body is the MOST that you can afford now- because you won't likely upgrade it anytime soon. A year or two down the road- the newer body is also going to be worth more than say the t2i- which is significantly older at this point in time.

1Tanker wrote in post #14699928
Owning a T2i and a 60D, i would suggest getting the T3i. That swivel screen, surprisingly, really comes in handy. Other than that, they're basically the same camera. .

This
Same for me. I have a T2i and a 60d. T3i would be my choice over T2i. Of course, T4i would be my choice over T3i...so on and so forth

wayne.robbins wrote in post #14703084
.... A year or two down the road- the newer body is also going to be worth more than say the t2i- which is significantly older at this point in time.

But you paid more money for it in the first place .. maybe more than the difference will be when you sell it

I ended up getting the t3i I'm glad I ended up going the extra mile for it too. Though I only got the 18-55is, I'm planning on either the tamron 70-300 or looking for a used 250is. After owning a sx40 I'm craving the long zoom bad haha. Any other long zoomers I should look into? I'm brand spanking new in the eos department so bare with my noob questions.

I was split as well. Today, I ordered the T2i because Canon had them for $448 shipped after a 20% coupon

Never ordered a refurbished product, I hope I don't regret it.

Goodcat wrote in post #14704512
I was split as well. Today, I ordered the T2i because Canon had them for $448 shipped after a 20% coupon

Never ordered a refurbished product, I hope I don't regret it.

Nothing wrong with a T2i at all. It's not "old tech", even the new T4i shares the majority of its pieces, and they still use the same sensor/shutter, etc.

1Tanker wrote in post #14704563
Nothing wrong with a T2i at all. It's not "old tech", even the new T4i shares the majority of its pieces, and they still use the same sensor/shutter, etc.

I think you'll find the T4i uses a different sensor to the T2i/T3i to aid in the new Phase detection auto-focus system.

Perfect_10 wrote in post #14704856
I think you'll find the T4i uses a different sensor to the T2i/T3i to aid in the new Phase detection auto-focus system.

True, although that really only matters if you're shooting in live view or shooting video. I think we can expect the IQ to be more or less the same as the T2i.

Personally I'd be more excited about the fact that you have a full set of 9 cross AF points and that the FPS is bumped up to 5FPS, which more or less means the guts are very comparable to that of the 60D. (Although on continuous shooting I'm not sure how the buffers will compare).

Getting a 70-200/300 will really complement your lens arsenal. The 50mm 1.8 really wow'ed me though compared to the kit 18-55.

ceremus wrote in post #14704891
True, although that really only matters if you're shooting in live view or shooting video. I think we can expect the IQ to be more or less the same as the T2i.

Personally I'd be more excited about the fact that you have a full set of 9 cross AF points and that the FPS is bumped up to 5FPS, which more or less means the guts are very comparable to that of the 60D. (Although on continuous shooting I'm not sure how the buffers will compare).

Admittedly, for stills, the T4i and the 60D are now very similar with regards to features as well as image quality, and the T4i may even be superior in low light and for video as well. However the 60D should still be considered for its greater comfort and better ergonomics. Whether its worth the extra cost depends on how much the ergonomics are valued by a potential customer.

mwsilver wrote in post #14705911
Admittedly, for stills, the T4i and the 60D are now very similar with regards to features as well as image quality, and the T4i may even be superior in low light and for video as well. However the 60D should still be considered for its greater comfort and better ergonomics. Whether its worth the extra cost depends on how much the ergonomics are valued by a potential customer.

True, the dual dial controls are always nice. I don't think there's anything wrong with someone starting out with a Rebel as their first DSLR, but it's best up to the individual for what their needs are and what they're comfortable with.

Personally if someone was aiming for more than a Rebel I would hold off for the announcement of the 70D, which should [hopefully] be coming soon, and will probably end up being closer in specs to the current 7D.

ceremus wrote in post #14705937
True, the dual dial controls are always nice. I don't think there's anything wrong with someone starting out with a Rebel as their first DSLR, but it's best up to the individual for what their needs are and what they're comfortable with.

Personally if someone was aiming for more than a Rebel I would hold off for the announcement of the 70D, which should [hopefully] be coming soon, and will probably end up being closer in specs to the current 7D.

Given the specs of the 5D III and the fact that the 5D II still in the line up, and with the T4i on the other end of the mix, some have suggested that the 7D and 60D might be replaced by a lower end FF camera and a camera that would be closer to the semi pro level of the 7D. Give the current technology and feature set of the new cameras in the lineup, the question may be whether the features and capabilities of two new crop frame bodies would overlap too much.

wayne.robbins wrote in post #14703084
Saying the t2i and the t3i are the same, 'cept for the flippy screen- is like saying that the t3i and the t4i are the same too, 'cause they have the flippy screen. Just because you would not find a feature useful- does not mean someone else would not. A wise person would visit Canon's website and see what features are new to each model, and maybe read some reviews - like from DPReview on each camera which tends to highlight the newer features. Maybe even read up on how and why you might be interested in those new features. Personally, I would suggest getting whichever body is the MOST that you can afford now- because you won't likely upgrade it anytime soon. A year or two down the road- the newer body is also going to be worth more than say the t2i- which is significantly older at this point in time.

Actually the differences are pretty minor... the flippy screen and the wireless control of flashes using pre-flashes (yuck, I'd never trust this over getting a set of triggers). Everything else is the same. The difference between the t3i and t4i are much bigger. T4i boasts much higher framerate, 9 cross type AF points instead of 1, continuous movie AF, a brilliant touchscreen... Yea the t2/3i difference is incremental compared to the t3/4i difference.