1DmkIII...too old?

ed rader wrote in post #14711372
You sound like a guy who's never used a 1.3 crop. True?

True. To me, It just doesn't seem like enough of a difference from either a 1.6 or a FF to be useful. That is leaving out the effect of the quality of the body itself, of course.

Pork, I went even older as I just bought a 1D Mk IIn and I couldn't be happier. Great IQ coming out of that oldie!

archer1960 wrote in post #14711385
True. To me, It just doesn't seem like enough of a difference from either a 1.6 or a FF to be useful. That is leaving out the effect of the quality of the body itself, of course.

It's funny, I don't really look at the reach as much of a benefit in either direction (other than less noise with less crop). Other than that, it just is what it is. On my 1.6, the images look a bit softer than what I'm seeing on the 1.3 in the 1d3. I was puzzled at what I could be doing wrong compared to all the sharp images I see her on POTN. Then I put my same old lens on a 1d3 and the sharpness is there. Just goofing around last night, I got this. (100% too big to post)

I do see how you end up bumping the glass costs about 50% for the same composition between a 7D and 5Diii on long shots... so there's that

archer1960 wrote in post #14711385
True. To me, It just doesn't seem like enough of a difference from either a 1.6 or a FF to be useful. That is leaving out the effect of the quality of the body itself, of course.

I see it as kind of a 'sweet spot' between the two, honestly. It gives you some more reach without killing the wide end of your FF zoom glass. My lenses just gave me good focal lengths on it. 28mm 1.8=~35mm. 16-35=~20-50mm, and obviously a little more zip on the tele end. I was afraid I wouldn't like the 1.3 crop factor but it's really quite nice. I prefer full frame, but 1.3>1.6.

waterrockets wrote in post #14711428
It's funny, I don't really look at the reach as much of a benefit in either direction (other than less noise with less crop). Other than that, it just is what it is. On my 1.6, the images look a bit softer than what I'm seeing on the 1.3 in the 1d3. I was puzzled at what I could be doing wrong compared to all the sharp images I see her on POTN. Then I put my same old lens on a 1d3 and the sharpness is there. Just goofing around last night, I got this. (100% too big to post)

I do see how you end up bumping the glass costs about 50% for the same composition between a 7D and 5Diii on long shots... so there's that

Also the 1D3 seems to have a weak AA filter because of its big pixels. I definitely got some very very sharp images that didn't need to be sharpened. On the flip side, it was weak enough that I would get moire at times under studio lights even on T-shirt fabric! The prints ended up being as good or better at any size as my T2i. The noise definitely looks better too.

I agree with the last 2 posts.
1.3 crop is sort of best of both worlds if you want. To me it gives bigger sensor with more lattitude for PPing and great noise, yet gives touch more reach and crops off the weakest and most vignetting parts of some lenses' FOV.

Also, I do agree the AA filter is weak and the images can get very crisp, on the flip side I find it very easy to force moire on this camera...

axl_kollar wrote in post #14712444
I agree with the last 2 posts.
1.3 crop is sort of best of both worlds if you want. To me it gives bigger sensor with more lattitude for PPing and great noise, yet gives touch more reach and crops off the weakest and most vignetting parts of some lenses' FOV.
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Thanks for the discussion, people. I especially appreciate that last point about cutting off the weakest parts of some lenses' images.

Hey just cuz the 65yr old lady down the street might be 30 years older than you doesnt mean she still cant rock the boat. I say go for it and let that old beast show you how good it can really be

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #14711420
Pork, I went even older as I just bought a 1D Mk IIn and I couldn't be happier. Great IQ coming out of that oldie!

The 1dmkIIn was my first "want"...I dawdled too long and now the 1dmkIII is within reach next month. Toys, toys, toys and more toys...I hate hobbies. LOL.

There are some great things to be gained by going for 1D3 as opposed to 1D2N:
- better battery with longer durability which is also lighter
- newer AF with more cross type points
- user interface (OMG what a difference!!! I compared 1D3 to 1D2s...world's apart)
- better ISO

If the 1D3 isn't too much of a stretch from 1D2N the definitely go for it!

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Or as one of my friends said:
Get what makes you happy, anything less makes you less happy

^^^ Oh sure, Axl, I agree! I just wanted to tell Pork that no, a Mk III is most definitely not too old; that some people buy older even...

Hellllll no! hahaha Besides the LCD screen having a low resolution, the 1D MK III is an amazing camera. It might not have the high ISO ability of the MK IV or 1D X, but it still does an excellent job at ISO 3200. AF is perfect (IMO), photo quality is excellent, and I personally love the 1.3 crop. Gives you a fast of full-frame attributes but still gets you a little closer in focal length. Like others have said, its a hard camera to part with. I've been contemplating with parting with either my 5D MK II or 1D MK III with the desire to go either to the 1D MK IV or an additional 1D MK III, and believe me, if it wasn't for the need to for video here and there, that 5D MK II would be gone.

Ryan, focus assist with the Speedlight is very helpful. I was referring to the setting where you use the focusing points that surround the chosen focus point to hold focus. I thought that was supposed to help with fast moving objects from articles I had read, but I discovered it was causing me to get a lot of out of focus shots. There's also a focus tracking mode selection that allows you to adjust how long the camera will stay focused on an object before it switches to another object - useful for tracking a flock of birds. You just have to play around with the settings to find what works for you. Sorry if I caused confusion in my earlier post. I'm not near my camera and can't recall what function numbers change these settings.

I like how Canon has simplified the autofocus settings in their new cameras.

axl_kollar wrote in post #14714505
There are some great things to be gained by going for 1D3 as opposed to 1D2N:
- better battery with longer durability which is also lighter
- newer AF with more cross type points
- user interface (OMG what a difference!!! I compared 1D3 to 1D2s...world's apart)
- better ISO

If the 1D3 isn't too much of a stretch from 1D2N the definitely go for it!

Absolutely. Other key improvements over 1D2n:
Sensor cleaning, live view, highlight tone priority, safety shift, 14 bit raw files, AF micro-adjustment, larger LCD monitor