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Jul 12, 2012 02:52 |  #1

sorry for the weird request!

need you guys to answer one question :

other than the different FL, do you see any quality differences in daylight shots?

reason i'm asking is : i use both 5Dc and t2i with my 135mm, and i don't find much of a difference in quality. at first i was very hesitant on using my t2i (as 2nd body) for travel.. but things might change now. :)




  
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Jul 12, 2012 03:37 |  #2

I have the same set. The mk II is obviously better at rendering detail, but not by much and the weight may make it a viable option for travel


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Jul 12, 2012 05:27 |  #3

I have the 5Dc and the t2i as well and notice no difference. I'm curious why you thought the 135mm couldn't perform on the t2i?




  
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Jul 12, 2012 06:14 as a reply to  @ nightcat's post |  #4

I use the 135 f2 on a 7d, 1DMKIII, and 5D MKIII. regardless of the body, the 135 is IMHO the second-sharpest lens Canon makes (the 200 f2 being #1). It is an amazing piece of glass and will bring out the best in your T2i.

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Jul 12, 2012 09:19 |  #5

nightcat wrote in post #14705650 (external link)
I have the 5Dc and the t2i as well and notice no difference. I'm curious why you thought the 135mm couldn't perform on the t2i?

it's not so much of the sharpness, but about a totally filmic look u get on the 5Dc, which i can rarely get in t2i (except in very rare situations).

disclaimer though - it applies mainly towards portraits. i don't feel it for other genres, like food/landscape.




  
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Jul 12, 2012 09:46 |  #6

whitesell wrote in post #14705716 (external link)
I use the 135 f2 on a 7d, 1DMKIII, and 5D MKIII. regardless of the body, the 135 is IMHO the second-sharpest lens Canon makes (the 200 f2 being #1). It is an amazing piece of glass and will bring out the best in your T2i.

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THis is a little OT, and probably for the lens threads, but how much difference is there really between the IQ on the 200 F2 and discontinued 200 1.8? I've heard nothing but great things about both.


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Jul 12, 2012 10:30 |  #7

The 135mm focal length is fairly long on a crop sensor camera and doesn't have IS, so you need to watch your shutter speeds... keep to about 1/200 or better unless you are really, really steady holding your camera or using it on a tripod.

it's a bit more hand-holdable on a full frame camera, though you still have to be concious of it.

FF camreas simply have smoother tonal gradations than the croppers. And this particular lens is all about soft backgrounds, bokeh and tonal gradations. So, while it works wonderfully on a cropper, IMO the 135mm really comes into it's own on a FF camera.

No, I wouldn't call it the sharpest lens Canon offers by any means. It's a dreamy, "artistic" lens. If you want really sharp and an almost "clinical" look, get a 100/2.8 or 100L macro instead.

I think it's the difference between the crisply focused areas and the heavily blurred out of focus areas, that makes it seem "sharper".

The 200/2 is sharper than the earlier 200/1.8, but it's not a huge difference. The main difference is the addition of IS... and parts supplies are exhausted so you probably can't get the AF fixed on the 200/1.8, if it breaks. The 300/2.8 IS is very, very close to 200/2 sharpness. The 200/2 on a FF camera can blur down the background more than the 135mm can on either FF or cropper. But both are fantastic in this respect.

135/2 on 7D:

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EF 135mm f2 lens at f4. EOS 7D at ISO 200, 1/500 shutter speed. Handheld, available light.


And on 5D Mark II:

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Jul 12, 2012 11:40 as a reply to  @ amfoto1's post |  #8

Before I sold my XTi body, I had the XTi, 5DII and 135/2.0L combo for about a year and a half. Great lens! Great for sports on the XTi. Great for portraits and other stuff on the 5DII. It's the best lens I have and my most used prime.

The size and weight of the XTi/135 combo wasn't too bad. My local NBA arena considered it a "small non professional" camera so I had no problem bringing it into the arena. Brought the XTi/135 to Hawaii several times but found that the XTi/17-55 zoom combo was more useful.


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Jul 12, 2012 19:40 |  #9

amfoto1 wrote in post #14706553 (external link)
The 135mm focal length is fairly long on a crop sensor camera and doesn't have IS, so you need to watch your shutter speeds... keep to about 1/200 or better unless you are really, really steady holding your camera or using it on a tripod.

it's a bit more hand-holdable on a full frame camera, though you still have to be concious of it.

FF camreas simply have smoother tonal gradations than the croppers. And this particular lens is all about soft backgrounds, bokeh and tonal gradations. So, while it works wonderfully on a cropper, IMO the 135mm really comes into it's own on a FF camera.

No, I wouldn't call it the sharpest lens Canon offers by any means. It's a dreamy, "artistic" lens. If you want really sharp and an almost "clinical" look, get a 100/2.8 or 100L macro instead.

I think it's the difference between the crisply focused areas and the heavily blurred out of focus areas, that makes it seem "sharper".

The 200/2 is sharper than the earlier 200/1.8, but it's not a huge difference. The main difference is the addition of IS... and parts supplies are exhausted so you probably can't get the AF fixed on the 200/1.8, if it breaks. The 300/2.8 IS is very, very close to 200/2 sharpness. The 200/2 on a FF camera can blur down the background more than the 135mm can on either FF or cropper. But both are fantastic in this respect.

135/2 on 7D:

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After the show
EF 135mm f2 lens at f4. EOS 7D at ISO 200, 1/500 shutter speed. Handheld, available light.


And on 5D Mark II:

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EF 135mm f2 lens at f2.0. EOS 5D Mark II at ISO 6400, 1/200 shutter speed. Handheld, available light.

that's somehow the look i get, seeing the comparison from both your pictures. however it's not quite fair to take 2 different photos for comparison - anyone else has 2 identical pics shot using 2 different bodies with the 135? :)

thanks for the contribution so far!




  
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Jul 12, 2012 23:06 |  #10

the.forumer wrote in post #14705345 (external link)
sorry for the weird request!

need you guys to answer one question :

other than the different FL, do you see any quality differences in daylight shots?

reason i'm asking is : i use both 5Dc and t2i with my 135mm, and i don't find much of a difference in quality. at first i was very hesitant on using my t2i (as 2nd body) for travel.. but things might change now. :)

Perhaps you could share a couple of photo's that you took with your cameras and we could see if one isn't performing as well with the 135L. Perhaps you may need to get one calibrated to the lens if the shots are slightly front or back focusing.


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