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Keedo
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Jul 13, 2012 00:08 |  #1

well, i am looking for an ultra wide angle lens.
mainly for landscapes and cars. It'll be a nice addition to my small, limited setup.

but, i have been reading and reading, and i just do not know which would be best for me to start off with, below i have picked some out but i didn't know they were this pricey lol.

right now, i have the 18-55mm EF-S IS II and a telephoto lens.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_mm_f_1_4_Asphe​rical.html (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …4mm_f_2_8_Super​_Wide.html (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2_Wide_Angle_EF​_24mm.html (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2_Wide_Angle_EF​_24mm.html (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2_Wide_Angle_EF​_28mm.html (external link)

this will be my most expensive purchase yet.

if you have any other websites that have them cheaper please do share. that goes for suggestions as well.

thank you in advance.


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Jul 13, 2012 00:12 |  #2

You said you were looking for an UWA.
The only UWA on your list is the samyang 14mm. Your kit lens is wider than all the others.

Look into the sigma 10-20 instead. Its a good budget UWA.


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Jul 13, 2012 00:14 |  #3

Sirrith wrote in post #14709842 (external link)
You said you were looking for an UWA.
The only UWA on your list is the samyang 14mm. Your kit lens is wider than all the others.

Look into the sigma 10-20 instead. Its a good budget UWA.

doing so right now, thank you.


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Jul 13, 2012 00:33 |  #4

Really like my Sigma 10-20mm 4-5.6. Nice lens at a nice price.


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Jul 13, 2012 10:01 |  #5

Try the Tokina 11-16 Pro...good as a prime!


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Jul 13, 2012 10:29 as a reply to  @ Roy Webber's post |  #6

Ditto for the Sigma, I really like mine though I believe the canon version is a bit nicer but having not tried it myself I can't comment, however it is a lot more!


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Jul 13, 2012 10:59 |  #7

Just bought my Sigma today, so far it has been a ton of fun!


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Jul 13, 2012 11:07 |  #8

The canon is in a class by itself.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=2​&APIComp=3 (external link)

you can see for yourself. however for the price the sigma is pretty darn good. its much better than the Tamron version that has significant CA issues and is VERY soft wide open.


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Jul 13, 2012 11:21 |  #9

It really depends on your budget but beware the difficulty of using an UWA effectively. Getting everything into one frame is often a very bad way to do things - you'll get far better landscape results if you stitch a few images from a quality 35 - 50 mm together.

For landscapes, I'd be inclined to recommend the 40/2.8 pancake, a good tripod (something like the Manfrotto 055B or better), a bubble level for your hot shoe and a cable release.


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Jul 13, 2012 11:36 |  #10

UWA for a crop camera (yours wasn't specified, but must be a cropper if using it with the 18-55) is largely going to be a zoom lens. There are few truly wide primes for crop.

Zooms you can choose among....

- Canon 10-22 (best of the bunch.... and the most expensive)
- Tokina 12-24 (IMO the 2nd best, better built than the Canon, slightly less flare resistant but still good, considerably cheaper than the Canon - though not as wide - less than the Toki 11-16, too... this is the lens I bought)
- Tokina 11-16 (f2.8, but a very narrow range of focal lengths and prone to flare)
- Sigma 10-20/3.5 (a newer model, fairly expensive)
- Sigma 10-20 variable aperture (less expensive, decent build, older version I tested flared quite a bit)
- Sigma 8-16 (widest available, lots of distortion in such a wide lens, not cheap)
- Tamron 10-24 (broadest range of focal lengths, somewhat soft toward the 24mm end)

Sure, you can stitch images together. It's extra work, though.


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Jul 13, 2012 12:11 |  #11

amfoto1 wrote in post #14711500 (external link)
Sure, you can stitch images together. It's extra work, though.

I am also in the market for a UWA, however I have found that the few times I wanted to use one I had planned to make a large print from the picture. And with my entry level camera, its not an easy task. Now stitching together shots gets me ALOT more megapixels to work with.

I just took a Seattle skyline shot two weekends ago, got the same image in one capture then zoomed in and took 20 shots of the skyline and stitched together .... SO much happier with the stitched photo.

However I still plan to get a UWA when the bank account allows




  
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Jul 13, 2012 12:11 |  #12

amfoto1 wrote in post #14711500 (external link)
UWA for a crop camera (yours wasn't specified, but must be a cropper if using it with the 18-55) is largely going to be a zoom lens. There are few truly wide primes for crop.

Zooms you can choose among....

- Canon 10-22 (best of the bunch.... and the most expensive)
- Tokina 12-24 (IMO the 2nd best, better built than the Canon, slightly less flare resistant but still good, considerably cheaper than the Canon - though not as wide - less than the Toki 11-16, too... this is the lens I bought)
- Tokina 11-16 (f2.8, but a very narrow range of focal lengths and prone to flare)
- Sigma 10-20/3.5 (a newer model, fairly expensive)
- Sigma 10-20 variable aperture (less expensive, decent build, older version I tested flared quite a bit)
- Sigma 8-16 (widest available, lots of distortion in such a wide lens, not cheap)
- Tamron 10-24 (broadest range of focal lengths, somewhat soft toward the 24mm end)

Sure, you can stitch images together. It's extra work, though.

I have a T3i.


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Jul 13, 2012 13:40 |  #13

amfoto1 wrote in post #14711500 (external link)
Sure, you can stitch images together. It's extra work, though.

Of course it's extra work... but the product is generally far better too.;)


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Jul 13, 2012 14:28 |  #14

If you use an UWA merely to "get it all in" you will generally end up with inferior photos. UWA is not the same a panoramic.

UWA is a specialty lens, and I picked up a way to describe its best use (I think from Ken Rockwell

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)...So, paraphrasing,... You don't use an UWA to get everything you see in the picture; you use an UWA to get the viewer in the picture.

So, if you are stitching things together to make a panoramic shot, that is not a good use for an UWA anyway.

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Jul 13, 2012 14:35 |  #15

RTPVid wrote in post #14712198 (external link)
If you use an UWA merely to "get it all in" you will generally end up with inferior photos. UWA is not the same a panoramic.

UWA is a specialty lens, and I picked up a way to describe its best use (I think from Ken Rockwell
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)...So, paraphrasing,... You don't use an UWA to get everything you see in the picture; you use an UWA to get the viewer in the picture.

So, if you are stitching things together to make a panoramic shot, that is not a good use for an UWA anyway.

I think I follow what you’re getting at here, I understand a UWA is not so much for a standard panoramic, but to make the viewer feel like they are standing in the middle of the picture ... am I correct in this interpretation of your post?




  
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