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Colour management from LR4 to Windows Photo Viewer

 
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Jul 13, 2012 20:59 |  #1

Hi guys,

I've noticed for a long time that the colors of RAW files in LR4 appear noticeably different from the exported jpeg files viewed on Windows Photo Viewer, with the latter being more contrasty. Is there a way where I can get both to match?

I did a bit of google'ing to find out if Windows Photo Viewer was colour-managed and it is. So im not too sure what's going on right now. Is the issue due to the fact that LR4 displays images using ProPhoto RGB and that the exported files are in sRGB? And if so, can I set LR4 to display in sRGB instead?

I tried going thru the menus in LR4 but couldn't find anyway to change that thus far.


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Jul 14, 2012 05:07 |  #2

can I set LR4 to display in sRGB instead?

Easily, that is what soft proofing does. Check the Soft Proof checkbox and select sRGB.

BTW, in the Library module the previews are in Adobe RGB and in the Develop module they are in a variation of ProPhoto RGB. Of course, in both modules the display data has been remapped to your monitor space.

However, and it's a big however, I just don't think Windows Photo Viewer (Windows 7 version) is very reliable. I recently did a comparison between four color managed applications that I use regularly and WPV. The four were: Lightroom 4.1, Digital Photo Professional 3.11.26, Picture Window Pro 5.0 and Breeze Browser Pro. I chose a photo with strong red roofs, blue sky and puffy white clouds and medium green foliage, which I exported from LR in sRGB, compression 85 jpg, no resizing or output sharpening. I then imported the jpg into LR and displayed it on all five applications. The image was close to identical on the four listed above, with slight variations that would only be noticed in side by side comprisons. In Windows Photo Viewer the blues and greens were reasonably close, but the reds were strongly desaturated and looked terrible. Colors with a strong red component (some yellow flowers, for instance) were similarly desaturated and hue-shifted. Overall, the image was contrastier, with the resultant illusion of greater sharpness.
My conclusion was to stay far away from WPV.


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Jul 14, 2012 09:50 |  #3

I agree -- some images look terrible in WPV. If you have Office installed try using the Microsoft Office Picture Manager (Located in Office Tools). I find it does a much better job of displaying images, and it has some basic editing tools, also.


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Jul 15, 2012 07:22 |  #4

Rimmer wrote in post #14715341 (external link)
I agree -- some images look terrible in WPV. If you have Office installed try using the Microsoft Office Picture Manager (Located in Office Tools). I find it does a much better job of displaying images, and it has some basic editing tools, also.

Forget MS for displaying images. Check out FastStone (external link) and IrfanView (external link) - they're both excellent image viewers with some extra bits and they're both free.


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Jul 15, 2012 10:31 |  #5

tzalman wrote in post #14714747 (external link)
I recently did a comparison between four color managed applications that I use regularly and WPV. The four were: Lightroom 4.1, Digital Photo Professional 3.11.26, Picture Window Pro 5.0 and Breeze Browser Pro. ... In Windows Photo Viewer the blues and greens were reasonably close, but the reds were strongly desaturated and looked terrible. Colors with a strong red component (some yellow flowers, for instance) were similarly desaturated and hue-shifted. Overall, the image was contrastier, with the resultant illusion of greater sharpness.

This is one very good example of how we, as photographers sending electronic files to folks for review and/or selection for purchase, are totally at the mercy of poorness of customer's monitor adjustment as well as at the mercy of variants introduced within the software being used to view them, too.

We agonize over the calibration of our own monitors, and the mapping to the print output to what we see, yet have our heads in the sand about the electronic viewing of our images by others! Meanwhile we attempt to use wider color gamuts in aRGB while the commercial ability to reproduce them is limited (I have only once gotten a response from anyone regarding any commercial photo printer, in this case in New Zealand, who would accept and print aRGB files without their converting the file to sRGB first, and resultantly introducing color reproduction conversion artifacts.)


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