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Sep 18, 2012 14:03 |  #61

Unless is photo trip, one light body+midrange or uwa zoom should be more than enough for vacation.



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Oct 06, 2012 23:23 |  #62

after visiting europe for a few weeks, it's depressing to be home.

barcelona, florence, naples, rome, pisa, nice, monte carlo, toulon, amsterdam, rhine river/germany, etc.

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I have a lot of good info to share with fellow photographers, but I'm too tired after a long day in the air.
will update tomorrow.
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Feb 20, 2013 09:41 |  #63

Dj R wrote in post #14732540 (external link)
Let me first apologize for starting a thread. I did struggle with the decision to start a thread or not. I prefer to search for and review existing threads. While there are many helpful threads on this subject, they leave me wanting more personal feedback. So here I am.

My wife and I are soon leaving for Europe in a few months. I would love some insight from the experts on what to bring. I have a host of lenses and the ability to make a trade or another purchase. Having never been to Europe or done extensive touring with my gear, I have a lot to learn from all of you with experience. Long trip, want to limit myself. Considering weight, risk, need. Wife is supportive, but I don't want to be annoying/wasting time, swapping lenses all the time.

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Provence & Nice, France. Florence, Naples, & Rome, Barcelona
Additional time in Germany including Oktoberfest with some local friends.
Amsterdam.

What do I shoot? Portaits, lol.

What will I want to to shoot in Eur? Everything. I LOVE cars and architecture.
I'll be doing the typical tourist stuff (wine/food/architectur​e tours).

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5D markIII, S100, 16-35L, 35L, 85L, 24-105L, 135L, flashes.

editted above to revise kit
50L, 85 1.8 were removed.
35L, 85L were added.


Storage I was originally going to bring a small laptop. Recently decided not to risk it, and to save weight/space by bringing (3) 32gb cf cards, and a 128sd card (which will work in my 5dmiii / not shooting sports).

Oktoberfest Was considering using the S100 for this event, so I can chill.

Tripod / Flash Wasn't planning on bringing either.

Notes My original plan was to bring the 16-35 and 35L. Done. Small kit, all fits in the Timbuk2 XS, easy!
Until today, when I was reading a thread that prompted me consider the 24-105 for the reach and IS. 3 Lenses?


Thank you for reading and any support you have to offer.

I could have written this question almost verbatim as my wife and I are soon off for two weeks across Europe. We'll marry our daughter off in the castle of Waterford in Waterford Ireland then we're off to London, Paris, Lucerne Switzerland and end up in Venice. Again, your post is one of the best I've read and most helpful I've seen during my short time here.

I had no idea what to take but at least now I have a beginning. Thanks to you and everyone else for helping us new guys out.


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Feb 20, 2013 10:23 |  #64

Good luck!

I ended up taking 16-35, 24-105 which has IS and was GREAT while on the top deck of tour buses in Barcelona! 35L for night. Done. It was a great kit for this trip.

Have a good time and be safe!


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Feb 20, 2013 10:24 |  #65

as you can see from the post above I'll be making a trip like this soon and wondered if my kit 18-55 would sufice for the 16-35 for wide angle photos? I dont really have the 1500 for a new lens. lol


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Feb 20, 2013 10:46 |  #66

After a few Euro trips with 11-16 and 24-105L and 50 f/1.8; I found 24-105L on my t3i 95% of the time. 11-16 came out for some sprawling perspective shots/etc; but I could have gotten by with only the 24-105L (especially if I was on ff not crop for wide angle). I never took the 50 f/1.8 out.


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Feb 20, 2013 11:24 |  #67

w0m wrote in post #15631760 (external link)
After a few Euro trips with 11-16 and 24-105L and 50 f/1.8; I found 24-105L on my t3i 95% of the time. 11-16 came out for some sprawling perspective shots/etc; but I could have gotten by with only the 24-105L (especially if I was on ff not crop for wide angle). I never took the 50 f/1.8 out.

I agree completely, and I have a host of lenses at my disposal.

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as you can see from the post above I'll be making a trip like this soon and wondered if my kit 18-55 would sufice for the 16-35 for wide angle photos? I dont really have the 1500 for a new lens. lol

I liked the 16-35 when in tight spaces in front of giant, amazing attractions in rome, and maybe one or two other locations. But to be honest, I agree with w0m, the 24-105 just works so well for vacationing/touring. If I were you, I would "borrow" one. buy one here or craigslist for 750-800, use it on the trip and then flip it for the same price. wait, you're on a crop. may not be wide enough for you. 18-55 will be good, you def don't need 16-35, not that much wider, but optically way better and 2.8. I don't know. You should have a 10-22 and 24-105 for your kit and you'd be golden.

edit, just saw your sig, you have the brick. I guess you should have a 10-22 and your brick. the brick vs 24-105 is an endless debate. If I were shooting portrait only, I'd have 24-70, but I own amazing primes for that. I wanted IS and lighter and LONGER for my walk-around lens, the 24-105. good luck. I am def not helping here lol!


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Feb 20, 2013 11:45 |  #68

dhornick wrote in post #15631684 (external link)
as you can see from the post above I'll be making a trip like this soon and wondered if my kit 18-55 would sufice for the 16-35 for wide angle photos? I dont really have the 1500 for a new lens. lol

I have been to all the places you are planning to visit, and not once. I assume you are going to see the typical touristy stuff, as most people do (I certainly do). In at least two places, Paris and Venice, the 18-55mm lens is not too wide on your crop camera. Big buildings and tight spaces is a combination that is begging for an ultra-wide angle lens. Without it makes it very difficult to frame the beautiful square with the Notre Dame, or the Westminster Abby, or St. Mark's Sq. (It is a little better in London, Waterford and Lucerne.) So I would recommend you to get a fairly inexpensive Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6. A new one goes for about $480, but you can find a used one in the $350-$375 range.

You will hardly be going to use the 55-250, unless you have specific purpose of taking it with you. I used to take a long telephoto to Europe, but the experience showed that I practically never use it, and it was sitting in the bag as a dead weight. Instead, I take a fast prime to use in low lit museums, so your 50mm f/1.8 will do very well there.

Don't bother with the tripod unless you want to shoot at night. At all these places during the day it is going to be knocked over by another tourist gawking at the attraction. Granted, it is better if you go off-season.

Most important: It is your vacation, not a paying photo job. Travel as light as you can - you are going to walk a lot of time, your shoulders will thank you for that - and enjoy it!




  
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Feb 20, 2013 11:53 |  #69

yup I would suggest the same. I wouldn't bring the 55-250 anywhere, let alone on this trip.
your last statement is right on. travel light and be comfy. less you bring, the less to get damaged, stolen, weigh you down, less decisions to make! lol.


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Feb 20, 2013 12:46 |  #70

Dj R wrote in post #15632007 (external link)
yup I would suggest the same. I wouldn't bring the 55-250 anywhere, let alone on this trip.
your last statement is right on. travel light and be comfy. less you bring, the less to get damaged, stolen, weigh you down, less decisions to make! lol.

Agreed. Never intended to bring the 55-250. It's between the 18-55, 24-70 and I'll obviously bring the 50 so it comes down to the brink or the much less IQ 18-55. And also agree, lighter is better, much better so.......

Personally, I'm thinking the 24-70 (the IQ is so phenomenal it's just hard to ever leave behind) and 50 and hope it's the right decision.

But I might also really consider finding a good used 10-20 as has also been suggested.

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Feb 20, 2013 12:53 |  #71

now looking at a Canon 10-22 looks like I can get for around 550. What's everyone's feelings about this lens for a Wide Angle lens and traveling in tight spaces with big or large subject? Or the Sigma 10-20 for 480 new.


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Feb 20, 2013 12:58 |  #72

dhornick wrote in post #15632238 (external link)
now looking at a Canon 10-22 looks like I can get for around 550. What's everyone's feelings about this lens for a Wide Angle lens and traveling in tight spaces with big or large subject? Or the Sigma 10-20 for 480 new.

I think a uwa and a workaround are what's needed; so Canon 10-22, Sigma 10-20; or Tokina 11-16 (I had the tokina when I was on crop; and it was my favorite lens). (And then 24-70; I'd probably leave the 50 f/1.8 home)


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Feb 20, 2013 13:20 |  #73

dhornick wrote in post #15632238 (external link)
now looking at a Canon 10-22 looks like I can get for around 550. What's everyone's feelings about this lens for a Wide Angle lens and traveling in tight spaces with big or large subject? Or the Sigma 10-20 for 480 new.

Sorry, I can't help with the 10-22, I never had one. But the Sigma 10-20 is a very good lens for daytime, when you are most likely use it. Look for a used copy, save money.

So if you getan UWA lens, then your 24-70 should be the main lens, and you will be glad you have a 50mm 1.8 when in poorly lit churches and museums (even though I personally prefer a wider lens for this purpose).




  
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Feb 20, 2013 23:53 |  #74

i have the 10-22 and the 24-105 combo an i found it wonderful when i toured Holland. We were mostly in non -ultraurban settings (we love the country side and small towns vs the biggist cities on our second and third trips to places) and I didn't need anything else. I would say that it covered everythng I wanted. I still took my macro for the one half-day tour in the botanical museum...and because I'm a freak! :) but besides that....430exii and strong shoulders to carry everything for the 12 hour days while dragging the kids and their junk around too! :)


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Feb 21, 2013 07:31 |  #75

ceriltheblade wrote in post #15634534 (external link)
i have the 10-22 and the 24-105 combo an i found it wonderful when i toured Holland. We were mostly in non -ultraurban settings (we love the country side and small towns vs the biggist cities on our second and third trips to places) and I didn't need anything else. I would say that it covered everythng I wanted. I still took my macro for the one half-day tour in the botanical museum...and because I'm a freak! :) but besides that....430exii and strong shoulders to carry everything for the 12 hour days while dragging the kids and their junk around too! :)

Yep, yep pretty much decided i'll add the 10-22 to the glass pile before the trip and end up taking it, the 24-70 and the 50. If I cant get by with those then I dont need to be doing this crap at all. lol

Thanks to all for your very helpful suggestions.


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