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My 7D's Focusing Issue

 
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Jul 19, 2012 15:14 |  #1

I've had my 7D for a couple of years now and have always had an issue with it focusing on the right spot. I usually take a ton of pictures so I will always come away with at least 1 keeper, but its getting rather old. Is this something I should send my camera in to be serviced for?

Below is an example from this last weekend. I was in one-shot AF mode with spot AF. I focused on my son's sunglasses to make sure it was high contrast area to better the chances of getting a focus lock. NOPE! Got the front stitching on his shorts instead. 5 shots in a row came out like this.

Here is a link to a larger version (external link)

IMAGE: http://i.imgur.com/8t8BL.jpg

It shouldn't be a MA issue as other shots come out great.

IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7126/7589947526_667de2a6e4_b.jpg

Here is another example from that day.

Focus point is on his face.
IMAGE: http://i.imgur.com/6ncq8.jpg

Focused behind him, got the stitching on the seat instead. First example focused in front, second example focused behind.

IMAGE: http://i.imgur.com/1U7TO.jpg


Any thoughts / recommendations? I really don't think its me as I have read extensively on how to use the 7D's focusing modes and never had this much trouble with my XTi. I have even tried using the auto MA software but have never had consistent enough results to make it useful.

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Jul 19, 2012 15:17 |  #2

zIt could be the camera or it could be a lens. Do all your lenses exibit the same inconsistancy?


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Jul 19, 2012 15:20 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #3

Try resetting all default camera settings .


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Jul 19, 2012 15:27 |  #4

gjl711 wrote in post #14740987 (external link)
zIt could be the camera or it could be a lens. Do all your lenses exibit the same inconsistancy?

Even though both of those shots were with my Sigma 50mm, I would say all my lenses since my Sigma is a recent acquisition. I will say I have a lot more success when I focus through Live View, making me suspect the camera.


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Jul 19, 2012 15:34 |  #5

LV focusing should be perfect every time.It's using the actual light path that will expose the image to focus. If it's inconsistant on all your lenses then MFA is usless as it cannot predictivly set itself. So odds are body ot technique.


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Jul 19, 2012 16:00 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #6

Not saying its the problem but one of the known Sigma 50 issues is your exact problem. At different focal lengths it shifts so MA doesn't help at all. I would try to work out focus issues with a different lens.




  
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Jul 19, 2012 16:03 as a reply to  @ mrbtd's post |  #7

whats your shutter speed on them?
I cant see your EXIF on my mac.
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Jul 19, 2012 16:07 |  #8

I had similar issues when I got my 7D and also blamed the camera. It turned out to be user error. Check out these tutorials:

http://www.youtube.com …K8MP1HFnE&featu​re=related (external link)

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=6nBVeWszWrU (external link)

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=iBExH5wgoVY (external link)


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Jul 19, 2012 16:29 |  #9

jhayesvw wrote in post #14741177 (external link)
whats your shutter speed on them?
I cant see your EXIF on my mac.
Thanks

Yeah, they are just screenshots of the image in DPP.

First is 1/2000 f/2.0 ISO100 AF-Spot One-Shot 50mm
Second one is 1/80 f/2.2 ISO100 AF-Spot One-Shot 50mm

I don't think its a motion blur issue because there is a sharp part of the photo and the subjects were very still.


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Jul 19, 2012 16:33 |  #10

James P wrote in post #14741204 (external link)
I had similar issues when I got my 7D and also blamed the camera. It turned out to be user error. Check out these tutorials:

http://www.youtube.com …K8MP1HFnE&featu​re=related (external link)

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=6nBVeWszWrU (external link)

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=iBExH5wgoVY (external link)

I understand that the AF on the 7D can be tricky, but it seems to me that a close, stationary subject with a single AF point on their face in One Shot mode should be a no-brainer to capture. If they or I were in motion with competing subjects then I can understand the confusion on how to use the AF.

Here is the exif data. I was in the proper Spot AF mode, not auto select or AF expansion.

IMAGE: http://i.imgur.com/oeZ4a.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://i.imgur.com/oeZ​4a.jpg  (external link)

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Jul 19, 2012 16:39 |  #11

Firstly why are you shooting a subject like that at 1/2000 and f2 when 1/250 f5.6 would give you a bit more DOF. Also High Speed continuous, how have you got the focusing set up, is it even trying to refocus between shots. The first may be OOF as there is no texture or detail on the face as under the focus square for the camera to work with, it is bound to struggle when basically presented with a blank surface.


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Jul 19, 2012 17:23 |  #12

I didn't want more DOF, I wanted to blur the docks behind them as much as possible. I had to shoot 1/2000 to control the exposure. As you can see from the second boat shot it worked fine once it actually focused on his face. High-speed continuous was on because before we pulled into the dock for gas I was shooting them on a raft being pulled behind us. But even so, if it didn't grab AF because of his smooth cheek, why did it go for his shorts in the bottom of the frame and not the nearest point of contrast to the selected AF spot. It gave me AF lock light and everything.

Here are two more pictures. Taken 5 seconds apart. 1st is focused correctly on his head, 2nd focused on the stitching on the seats.

IMAGE: http://i.imgur.com/zu7gv.jpg

IMAGE: http://i.imgur.com/n3brV.jpg



Maybe my camera just REALLY likes stitching. Honestly, I am seeing a pattern in these shots. When it doesn't focus correctly, it focuses on the bottom right (when held horizontal, bottom left when vertical)

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Jul 19, 2012 18:15 |  #13

Tiggity-T wrote in post #14741462 (external link)
Maybe my camera just REALLY likes stitching. Honestly, I am seeing a pattern in these shots. When it doesn't focus correctly, it focuses on the bottom right (when held horizontal, bottom left when vertical)

Strangely there is not even a focusing point in the same plane of focus as the stitching.
I suspect it's the lens, does the problem occur only with the Sigma or all lenses, I've read about a lot of focusing issues in general with 50mm lenses wide open.


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Jul 19, 2012 18:41 |  #14

With you in manual AF there is no reason that focus should be shifting to a point you didn't select, is there? I think I would send it in and have it looked at.


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Jul 19, 2012 18:46 |  #15

I agree with lannes. Does it happen with other lenses? I have the sigma and have the exact problem as you. Live view focuses perfectly and MA does nothing to help the lens.
If this doesn't affect your other lenses, it most certainly is the siggy problem. Mine is on its way back from Sigma NY.


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