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Jul 23, 2012 21:27 |  #271

From theAustralian (external link)hands-on experience

During our brief hands-on with a pre-production model, what was immediately noticeable about the EOS M is just how quickly and effortlessly it can focus. It was set so that we didn't even have to press the shutter button halfway down; every time the camera was pointed to a near object from a far object, the focus changed almost immediately and it was spot-on accurate.


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Jul 23, 2012 21:33 |  #272

That's encouraging.


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Jul 23, 2012 21:59 |  #273

Some comments I read from others:
1) " Why would you even want to mount your EF lenses to this camera? The whole idea of a small mirrorless camera is portability. Add EF lenses and throw your portability out. If I want to use my EF lenses, I'll just grab my 5D2 with them."

2) "This isn't a camera aimed at enthusiasts, which I suspect is the reason for all the hate/whining/****/grip​ing.

Canon, like Nikon, is positioning this as a step-up offering for Powershot users wanting better image quality / flexibility but who find DSLRs off-putting. Not as a replacement for DSLRs. This is a perfectly reasonable and legitimate business strategy for Canon and Nikon, the two worldwide leaders in the DSLR market.

Personally, I think focusing on the camera body is irrelevant. The more interesting discussion is probably around the EOS-M system itself. Will it grow someday to include enthusiast and even professional models? Perhaps, if the DSLR business begins shrinking and competition from others heats up.

But we shouldn't expect Canon and Nikon to prematurely hasten the death of the DSLR market. If you want market disruption, you'll have to find it from the niche players like Olympus."

3) " The only use I see with this is as a back up on a hike, if I dont want to carry a second full size bodys weight."


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Jul 23, 2012 22:26 |  #274

Or if your pack can't accomidate another body!


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Jul 23, 2012 22:27 |  #275

AF seems super super slow...the lack of a view-finder is a bit of a killer for me...i do wonder if it has built in vibrating sensor cleaning...if not i wonder if it will get a lot more dust that DSLR's without the cover of the mirror...


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Jul 23, 2012 22:30 as a reply to  @ touji's post |  #276

AJSJones wrote in post #14759979 (external link)
From theAustralian (external link)hands-on experience

that's promising.

Bianchi wrote in post #14760149 (external link)
Personally, I think focusing on the camera body is irrelevant.
3) " The only use I see with this is as a back up on a hike, if I dont want to carry a second full size bodys weight."

know how I know you don't have/shoot kids? ;)


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Jul 23, 2012 22:35 |  #277

this is what dpreview says about the auto-focus:

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As the only cameras we've seen so far are pre-production, it's premature to say much about focus speed. But while on first impressions the 18-55mm focuses pretty quickly, the 22mm is distinctly slower. This is not totally surprising given that the entire optical unit racks back and forth for focusing; this is not a design approach that's ever been associated with ultra-fast focusing on this type of lens. But we'll wait for production cameras and lenses to make a proper judgement.

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Jul 23, 2012 23:00 |  #278

Looks interesting, but I am first getting a 5D3 as soon as I am back from the holidays :D


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Jul 23, 2012 23:19 |  #279

jacobsen1 wrote in post #14760305 (external link)
that's promising.


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Haaa ? I reposted what I read others had said. Dont get your point about the kids...Unless you are referring to the person who posted it.


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Jul 23, 2012 23:29 |  #280

If I had a lazy grand, I'd grab one, it would be a useful sensor to put on the end of one of my lenses without adding any weight to my camera bag. Lets face it one of these on the end of a 70-200 would barely be noticed in the bag. It may even avoid the necessity of a lens change in adverse environmental conditions.




  
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Jul 23, 2012 23:51 |  #281

jacobsen1 wrote in post #14759687 (external link)
I read that too. It's a smaller mount than a mount specifically designed for FF, so it's a fact. But here's the thing. If they were to go to a FF version of this, why not just use the EF mount. The lenses exist and it'd make those users happy. Yes the mount would be a tad longer, but they could also make more pancake lenses to give people the option of having smaller lenses, but they'd have a TON of available lenses on launch. Wins in both cases as long as they also make more pancakes for EF IMHO.

I get this, and have nothing against that. Except for the fact that I really hoped one day this new system would provide us with a solution/alternative to the large bodies and lenses that we already have. I did not have the fortune of existing during the hight of the compact film slr (or rangefinder) days, but I have always thought we should get back to or emulate that sort of experience. You are right though, that would make sense for them to do.

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...You can't make the opening big enough for FF and still have the pins there. That's why it won't support FF.

Sigh. I'm not saying DSLRS are done (IMO they aren't), but it would have been nice for Canon to at least left open the possibility, you know? :neutral:


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Jul 23, 2012 23:52 as a reply to  @ post 14755915 |  #282

Potential NEX 5 and S90 replacement. You just know Canon are going to get lenses out for this thing faster than Sony have bothered to with the NEX.

If only I could use the lovely Sigma 30 2.8 on it :(


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Jul 24, 2012 00:10 |  #283

Michael Cheddar wrote in post #14760552 (external link)
Sigh. I'm not saying DSLRS are done (IMO they aren't), but it would have been nice for Canon to at least left open the possibility, you know? :neutral:

I know exactly how you feel. With all the major players having shown their hands the door is now pretty much closed for a FF mirrorless anytime soon (no, Leica M9 doesn't count). I know it would be a niche market, I know the lenses wouldn't be tiny (although with some ingenuity and willingness to employ in-body lens correction we could get closer to reasonable sizes), but it would have been nice to leave the door open for it to happen one day. EF-M mount emphatically says "no soup for you" to us FF mirrorless dreamers.




  
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Jul 24, 2012 00:15 |  #284

As a niche market though, big corps like Canon won't try to appeal to niche markets so why would they attempt a FF mirrorless unless it becomes a popularized and highly demanded consumer item?


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