Jul 23, 2012 08:37 | #1 Hi guys, "High life on low budget"
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msowsun "approx 8mm"  More info | Jul 23, 2012 13:18 | #2 All these flashes are compatible with the Canon optical wireless system on the T3i/600D, T4i/650D, 60D, and 7D. The cheapest would be a used 420EX, 320EX, or 270EX II. Mike Sowsun / SL1 / 80D / EF-S 24mm STM / EF-S 10-18mm STM / EF-S 18-55mm STM / EF-S 15-85mm USM / EF-S 55-250mm STM / 5D3 / Samyang 14mm 2.8 / EF 40mm 2.8 STM / EF 50mm 1.4 USM / EF 100mm 2.0 USM / EF 100mm 2.8 USM Macro / EF 24-105mm IS / EF 70-200mm 2.8L IS Mk II / EF 100-400 II / EF 1.4x II
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Jul 23, 2012 14:21 | #3 msowsun wrote in post #14757579  All these flashes are compatible with the Canon optical wireless system on the T3i/600D, T4i/650D, 60D, and 7D. The cheapest would be a used 420EX, 320EX, or 270EX II. Canon 580 EX II Canon 580 EX Canon 550 EX Canon 430 EX II Canon 430 EX Canon 420 EX Canon 320EX Canon 270EX II Metz 58 Nissin Di866 Nissin Di622 II Sigma EF500 DG Super Sigma EF530 DG Super Sigma EF610 DG Super Yongnuo YN-565
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msowsun "approx 8mm" More info | Jul 23, 2012 14:28 | #4 bent toe wrote in post #14757924 Thanks for the reply msowsun, but whats the "Canon optical wireless system" ? That is how Canon is able to remotely fire a flash when you take a photo. How wireless E-TTL works. Canon’s wireless E-TTL system employs brief digitally-encoded pulses of light (either visible or infrared, depending on the master unit used) to transmit commands from a master flash unit to a slave unit or multiple slaves. Since the system relies on special digital messages built into the light pulses it’s immune to the problem that regular optical slave flash units have - that of being triggered accidentally in response to other flash units firing. (unless you’re near other photographers who are also using Canon wireless flash units, of course).............. Mike Sowsun / SL1 / 80D / EF-S 24mm STM / EF-S 10-18mm STM / EF-S 18-55mm STM / EF-S 15-85mm USM / EF-S 55-250mm STM / 5D3 / Samyang 14mm 2.8 / EF 40mm 2.8 STM / EF 50mm 1.4 USM / EF 100mm 2.0 USM / EF 100mm 2.8 USM Macro / EF 24-105mm IS / EF 70-200mm 2.8L IS Mk II / EF 100-400 II / EF 1.4x II
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ben_r_ -POTN's Three legged Support-  15,894 posts Likes: 13 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA More info | Jul 23, 2012 15:03 | #5 bent toe wrote in post #14757924 Thanks for the reply msowsun, but whats the "Canon optical wireless system" ? Its the wireless IR triggering you were referring to in your first post. [Gear List | Flickr
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Michael60d Member  39 posts Joined Feb 2012 More info | I am a rookie, but I really love my 320EX. - Photographer newbie who loves his 60D and learning more about photography
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rklepper Dignity-Esteem-Compassion  9,019 posts Gallery: 2 photos Likes: 14 Joined Dec 2003 Location: No longer living at the center of the known universe, moved just slightly to the right. Iowa, USA. More info | Jul 24, 2012 07:38 | #7 If it were me just starting out I would get the 430EXII. Doc Klepper in the USA
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pillainp Member 203 posts Joined May 2010 Location: Trivandrum, Kerala, India More info | Jul 24, 2012 08:16 | #8 rklepper wrote in post #14761391 If it were me just starting out I would get the 430EXII. Exactly.
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HughR Senior Member  999 posts Joined Feb 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario More info | Jul 24, 2012 11:05 | #9 I use two 430EXs wirelessly controlled by my 60D and adjust the A:B ratios from the camera. Works perfectly at the distances Canon specifies. Canon has a good video on how the 60D wireless system works at: Hugh
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Jul 24, 2012 14:35 | #10 HughR wrote in post #14762346 I use two 430EXs wirelessly controlled by my 60D and adjust the A:B ratios from the camera. Works perfectly at the distances Canon specifies. Canon has a good video on how the 60D wireless system works at: http://learn.usa.canon.com …s/eos_60d_tutorials.shtml You have to scroll through the videos, as the Integrated Speedlite Transmitter video is next to last. Tells you everything you need to know about how the system works. Ok, it works like the Nissin 622 mark II... and it's even cheaper. "High life on low budget"
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heinimi Member 127 posts Joined Aug 2011 More info | Jul 24, 2012 15:09 | #11 I am adding the Yongnuo 565EX. It has nice features and the price is great. For me the best choice if you do not go professional.
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HughR Senior Member 999 posts Joined Feb 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario More info | Jul 24, 2012 15:23 | #13 bent toe wrote in post #14763340 Ok, it works like the Nissin 622 mark II... and it's even cheaper. I need to use the built-in flash as a master.. Edit* Hmm.. i guess i'm wrong, the 430 can be fired without built-in flash.. then this one is a true MASTER flash for a decent price.. right? The 430EX can be used either in the hot shoe, in which case the pop-up cannot be used as a master for wireless off-camera control. Alternatively, the 430EX is set to slave mode and used off camera under control of the wireless 60D pop-up master. The 430EX cannot function as a master, but the 60D pop-up can. I don't know the Nissin 622 at all. Hugh
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Jul 24, 2012 15:47 | #14 Rocky Rhode wrote in post #14763549 Not really understanding what being a professional has to do with purchasing a YN-565? It's a great flash for the price; don't professionals want a good deal? There were reports of higher than normal failure rates with the early units of YN-565EX. The last thing you want on a paid job is unreliable gear. However, those issues seem to have been resolved now. http://www.twilightandtulle.com
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Jul 24, 2012 15:51 | #15 HughR wrote in post #14763610 The 430EX can be used either in the hot shoe, in which case the pop-up cannot be used as a master for wireless off-camera control. Alternatively, the 430EX is set to slave mode and used off camera under control of the wireless 60D pop-up master. The 430EX cannot function as a master, but the 60D pop-up can. I don't know the Nissin 622 at all. I'm not following.. been looking at a few youtube videos showing the 430 being used as a "master" meaning that the pop-up flash does not have ti fire the flash.. but just be opened. "High life on low budget"
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