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A stand-alone flash for my 60D?

 
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Jul 24, 2012 17:09 |  #16

Subscribing. :)



  
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Jul 24, 2012 17:52 |  #17

amirg wrote in post #14763728 (external link)
There were reports of higher than normal failure rates with the early units of YN-565EX. The last thing you want on a paid job is unreliable gear. However, those issues seem to have been resolved now.

Noted; and agree


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Jul 24, 2012 18:46 |  #18

The video says the built in flash does not FIRE AT TIME OF EXPOSURE.
It fires preflashes just before the shutter opens and fires a FIRE command that is synced with the shutter. There is no radio transmitter in your camera. It is all done with light emitted from the built in flash. Or an external, master capable flash. The 430ex flashes can only be a slave.



  
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Jul 26, 2012 10:19 |  #19

bent toe wrote in post #14763747 (external link)
I'm not following.. been looking at a few youtube videos showing the 430 being used as a "master" meaning that the pop-up flash does not have ti fire the flash.. but just be opened.

I need this clarified..

Can i fire off the 430 external without the pop-up firing it's flash.
I can use the nissin as external but the builtin pop-up flash needs to fire off a flash inorder for the nissin flash to fire.

Look at these videos:
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=gn1xioiYgpg (external link) 7D
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=ruQBbenSlM0 (external link) 60D

And in the tutorial at 2:30 he says that the built-in flash doesent have to fire in order to have the 430 fire external.
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=p-in23ZXErM (external link)

Dedsen is correct. The pop-up must fire a pre-flash to tell the wireless flashes to fire and at what intensity. You have the choice on the 60D menu whether to have the pop-up only function as a trigger and not contribute to the exposure, or whether to have the pop-up provide a modest amount of fill light during the exposure. I use it both ways depending on circumstances.


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Jul 26, 2012 11:37 as a reply to  @ post 14763747 |  #20

The Canon wireless system works quite well indoors if there is line of sight between the camera and the flash. It is often beneficial to rotate the head of the flash so that the red window is facing the camera.

However, it is sometimes problematic to use the wireless system outdoors. It depends a lot on the distance between the camera and flash, the angle between the camera and the flash, the brightness and the angle of the sun.

As an example, I can use my flash on a Stroboframe bracket indoors and it triggers just fine from the camera. However, outdoors, the parameters mentioned above can interfere with the camera triggering the flash wirelessly.


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Jul 26, 2012 14:49 |  #21

Ok, now i know.. thanks all who contributed.


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