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esanders101
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Jul 28, 2012 00:41 |  #1

Hey Everyone, I am in need of some assistance in post processing the milky way. I can only ever seem to get a faint glow, even far off of any town.It would be awesome to see everyone's best milky way stacked or single shots. I would love to see different editing styles and please share your process if you are willing.

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Jul 28, 2012 08:41 |  #2

that's nice, the number of stars is amazing




  
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Jul 30, 2012 00:45 |  #3

30 seconds at least is needed at a wide angle to counter start trailing.


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Jul 30, 2012 00:55 |  #4

Yes I know about the rule of 400 for my crop sensor, I was more interested in how to accentuate the milky way in post processing. any thoughts?




  
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Jul 30, 2012 07:09 |  #5

You really need more exposure. I usually use 30 sec at f/2.8 with my Tokina. You might also try stretching the lower end of the histogram a lot more. Also, your noise-reduction might be taking out some of the detail; what did it look light sooc?


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Jul 30, 2012 08:20 |  #6

Try warming your white balance.




  
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Jul 30, 2012 08:55 |  #7

Great shot, agree with the white balance comment




  
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Jul 30, 2012 13:27 |  #8

archer1960 wrote in post #14789360 (external link)
You really need more exposure. I usually use 30 sec at f/2.8 with my Tokina. You might also try stretching the lower end of the histogram a lot more. Also, your noise-reduction might be taking out some of the detail; what did it look light sooc?

Unfortunately I have lost the original file so I can't post it, but I agree, I used a sigma 10-20, which only goes down to f/4, would love a 2.8 but just wondering if there was anything different I could do to help. great advice thanks.
any samples to post?




  
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Jul 30, 2012 13:28 |  #9

oldno7 wrote in post #14789527 (external link)
Try warming your white balance.

Would that help because the milky way is more brownish yellow in nature rather than blue?

would love to see some of your work posted




  
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Jul 30, 2012 16:26 |  #10

Hi, the shot looks good, but as you state - it is difficult to get the Milky Way to show up the way you want it. Your colour balance for the sky looks a bit cold - too blue, but then again I noticed the following. If you shoot shortly after sunset - as soon as it looks dark to the eye, then the blue is prominent. The shot below was a tester while we waited for the weather to improve. It rained during the day and the clouds were moving off fast. Very little done to this shot - adjusted the curves and some white balance.

Later during the night, the colours tend to come out.


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Jul 30, 2012 16:36 |  #11

that's a great result considering your 40D's noise capabilities.




  
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Jul 30, 2012 16:46 |  #12

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Here is another example with a different white balance. The milky way is just barely visible to the right of the mountain.
This is a blended image of 3 exposures where the stars shot was taken around 1:00 am
maybe needs more adjusting?
but still a decent shot I think



  
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Jul 31, 2012 01:04 |  #13

esanders101 wrote in post #14791746 (external link)
Serenity at Night (external link) by esanders01 (external link), on Flickr

Here is another example with a different white balance. The milky way is just barely visible to the right of the mountain.
This is a blended image of 3 exposures where the stars shot was taken around 1:00 am
maybe needs more adjusting?
but still a decent shot I think

I am also coming to the conclusion that you end up blending shots to get the final result. A single exposure is good, but not good enough.

The shot below was taken the same night when all the clouds moved on. The stars looked so beautiful and due to the rain, the sky was "dust free".

This one is not a nightscape, and I left it slightly dark - but on my laptop, the light shines nicely through the image. I think I used two 20 second exposures loaded them as HDR images in a trial version of CS6 to see what Photoshop could do.


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Jul 31, 2012 06:44 |  #14

esanders101 wrote in post #14791746 (external link)
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IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …s/esanders101/7​626358176/  (external link)
Serenity at Night (external link) by esanders01 (external link), on Flickr

Here is another example with a different white balance. The milky way is just barely visible to the right of the mountain.
This is a blended image of 3 exposures where the stars shot was taken around 1:00 am
maybe needs more adjusting?
but still a decent shot I think

I think your black point is set too hard, and that's hiding some of your milky way fuzziness. Try adjusting your sliders to lighten up the black parts of the sky, and see if that doesn't bring out more of the Milky Way.


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Jul 31, 2012 10:48 |  #15

This is my best attempt. I was in Patagonia, basically the ass end of the world, so that helped.

Single shot. 30 seconds, ISO 1600, f/2.8

Did basic PP like contrast, little bit of levels, and noise reduction.

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