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Aug 02, 2012 16:01 |  #1

With my current arsenal of lenses (L 100macro, 24-105, 100-400 , & 17mm T/S) which lens would give me the best bokeh for senior pictures?


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Aug 02, 2012 16:02 |  #2

I'd have to say the 100mm. Really pleasing backgrounds with that lens. What about that 35mm you have in your sig? Is that an option? Also really lovely.


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Aug 02, 2012 16:28 |  #3

Gotta ask, since the term 'bokeh' is mistakenly used to refer to 'amount of out-of-focus blur', rather than the quality of the blur... Are you asking about 'quantity' or 'quality' of blur?

The larger iris size (FL / f-stop) has more quantity of blur of the distant background.


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Aug 02, 2012 16:31 |  #4

Wilt wrote in post #14805981 (external link)
Gotta ask, since the term 'bokeh' is mistakenly used to refer to 'amount of out-of-focus blur', rather than the quality of the blur... Are you asking about 'quantity' or 'quality' of blur?

Given his list of lenses, the macro will likely be the right choice, regardless of which one he wants. It's also a good length for portraits.


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Aug 02, 2012 17:14 |  #5

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Given his list of lenses, the macro will likely be the right choice, regardless of which one he wants. It's also a good length for portraits.

One might be able to come to a conclusion about QUANTity of background blur, but the quality of blur (bokeh) can only be done via comparison shots, as this illustrates http://www.rickdenney.​com/bokeh_test.htm (external link)


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Aug 02, 2012 17:28 |  #6

For quality bokeh its best to create your own

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=H5jjr_vKruU (external link)

But your macro will probably give you the best low DOF for a milky background if thats what your after.


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Aug 02, 2012 17:37 |  #7

Nature Nut wrote in post #14806212 (external link)
For quality bokeh its best to create your own...

I think an apodization filter at the iris position is much better than those shaped forms in front of the lens.
The Helios 44 works very well with my apodization filters (see my homepage).


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Aug 02, 2012 18:26 |  #8

Nature Nut wrote in post #14806212 (external link)
But your macro will probably give you the best low DOF for a milky background if thats what your after.

The issue of what is in focus (DOF) is very independent from
1) how blurred the background is or
2) the quality of the out-of-focus blur (bokeh).

The illustrations used in this post shows three shot at f/11 with the subject the same size in the frame...the DOF is the same for the three shots (note the two black objects perched on the ends of the yardstick); but the out-of-focus blur in the background buidings is quite different. https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=7667310&p​ostcount=3


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Aug 02, 2012 21:18 |  #9

Wilt wrote in post #14806145 (external link)
One might be able to come to a conclusion about QUANTity of background blur, but the quality of blur (bokeh) can only be done via comparison shots, as this illustrates http://www.rickdenney.​com/bokeh_test.htm (external link)

I did say "likely" and considering the max aperture, number of aperture blades and bokeh reputation of the three lenses he owns that would be generally suitable for portraiture, not to mention personal experience with 2 of those 3, I am confident with my earlier statement.


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Aug 02, 2012 21:45 |  #10

Not sure which is "best", but no doubt, the 100mm f2.8L will give you great portraits and excellent bokeh.


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Aug 02, 2012 22:14 |  #11

I am unsure of which has the best looking bokeh, but my guess for which has the most intensity of bokeh is 100-400mm @ 400mm F5.6.


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Aug 02, 2012 22:23 |  #12

I think the 100mm macro will be the best choice, but try taking some shots at 300mm or 400mm wide open with your zoom. Those would be interesting. I had to laugh seeing your 17mm tilt lens included in the question. I don't think those seniors would be to happy with the portrait results!




  
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Aug 02, 2012 22:56 |  #13

nightcat wrote in post #14807367 (external link)
I think the 100mm macro will be the best choice, but try taking some shots at 300mm or 400mm wide open with your zoom. Those would be interesting. I had to laugh seeing your 17mm tilt lens included in the question. I don't think those seniors would be to happy with the portrait results!

It can work fine so long as you are standing back and getting more of the background. Not likely to be used for more than a few shots and definitely not for closeups.


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Aug 03, 2012 15:55 |  #14

Yeah, I should have updated my tag. I sold my 35mmL because I never used it. Now that it's gone, I have a use for it now!!!! Ugh..... I threw the tilt shift in just for humor!. I'll give my macro a try then, the 100-400 and compare. I was leaning towards the macro too but wondered what others thought. Thanks for the help!


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Aug 03, 2012 16:00 |  #15

mike3767 wrote in post #14810497 (external link)
Yeah, I should have updated my tag. I sold my 35mmL because I never used it. Now that it's gone, I have a use for it now!!!! Ugh..... I threw the tilt shift in just for humor!. I'll give my macro a try then, the 100-400 and compare. I was leaning towards the macro too but wondered what others thought. Thanks for the help!

My favorite portraits come from my 70-200mII and 300 2.8. Personally, if what you want is an isolated subject with a smooth, completely blurred background I'd say the longer the better.


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