I have three lenses, a 28-135, 300 f-4 IS and a 100-400. I need to do a little macro of dragonflies.
I need a little reach. I am guessing extention tubes are cheaper then a long macro. : ) Would extention tubes work good with the 300 or 100-400?
peregrineflier Goldmember 4,069 posts Likes: 9 Joined Jan 2010 More info | Aug 04, 2012 23:47 | #1 I have three lenses, a 28-135, 300 f-4 IS and a 100-400. I need to do a little macro of dragonflies. Thanks, Tom the Peregrineflier
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TSchrief Goldmember 2,099 posts Joined Aug 2012 Location: Bourbon, Indiana More info | Aug 05, 2012 04:40 | #2 Permanent banGet yourself a 100mm f/2.8. Either is fine. Results will be much better than trying to manage a 100-400L sized lens in a macro project. Or maybe a 500D Close-up filter. Never used one but have heard praises. I do believe it comes in 77mm.
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TeamSpeed 01010100 01010011 More info | Aug 05, 2012 06:02 | #3 TSchrief wrote in post #14816186 Get yourself a 100mm f/2.8. Either is fine. Results will be much better than trying to manage a 100-400L sized lens in a macro project. Or maybe a 500D Close-up filter. Never used one but have heard praises. I do believe it comes in 77mm. You would think that but actually using tubes and a 1.4x TC work very well on the 100-400l. Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery
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nightcat Goldmember 4,533 posts Likes: 28 Joined Aug 2008 More info | Aug 05, 2012 06:14 | #4 The 300mm f4 is fine for butterflies and dragonflies. It has a nice MFD to begin with and takes the tubes well.
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Roroco Senior Member 647 posts Joined Oct 2010 More info | Aug 05, 2012 06:39 | #5 I probably wouldn't recommend it. Even with tubes, you are not going to be able to get all that close with either of those lens. More importantly, the size of those lens are going to make it difficult to shoot macro. You are working with such narrow DoFs, that large lenses like these will be hard to manage. Roger Lights -- Alien Bees B800 -- 580 EX II -- Yongnuo YN-560 II & YN-568EX -- Mother Nature -- RF 602s
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TSchrief Goldmember 2,099 posts Joined Aug 2012 Location: Bourbon, Indiana More info | Aug 05, 2012 10:13 | #6 Permanent banTeamSpeed wrote in post #14816298 You would think that but actually using tubes and a 1.4x TC work very well on the 100-400l. Just curious.... Are you hand-holding that setup or using a tripod?
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bob_r Goldmember More info | Aug 05, 2012 10:27 | #7 I have tubes, a 1.4X TC, a 500D and a 100-400, but don't use anything other than just the 100-400 when shooting dragonflies. Here's a sample shot taken with a 30D and 100-400: Canon 7D, 5D, 35L, 50 f/1.4, 85 f/1.8, 135L, 200L, 10-22, 17-55, 70-300, 100-400L, 500D, 580EX(2).
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inernets Senior Member 598 posts Joined Dec 2007 Location: D.C. More info | Aug 05, 2012 10:41 | #8 i have played with the setup and have some awesome results, here is one of them: large-frog-posing 100-400mm w/ kenko extension tubes +3 photos my notes from the shot: The 100-400mm super telephoto lens is the last lens you would think to use for macro, but if you pop on the kenko extension tubes you can get much closer to the subjects. The minimum focus distance on the lens is 6 feet, so with the tubes you can give more space between the lens and the camera body allowing you to focus at a much closer distance. Using the push-pull design on the lens, i set it to manual and moved the lens or body closer or farther away to frame and focus. ---- a few more frogs with that setup: IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ehambrick/6893813718/ Small Frog Side - 100-400mm w/ kenko extension tubes IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ehambrick/7039908917/ red-frog-top 100-400mm w/ kenko extension tubes Here is a fly shot i got: IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ehambrick/7039908517/ Fly Macro - 100-400mm w/ kenko extension tubes and the setup: IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ehambrick/7039976855/ camera-setup Shooting dragonflies with the setup would be a little difficult. These frogs were not moving much so i had a lot of time to setup the shots. But, the fly shot was taken with me sitting by a lounge chair that had about 5-10 flies resting on it. I would sit and wait with the extension tubes on so my in focus distance was very short, i was just waiting for the flies to get in my field of focus. I would nudge the chair every minute or so to get the flies to move and once they came close enough i was able to get a few photos. I also don't have a true macro lens, but i got the extension tubes just to experiment and the push-pull design is interesting for macro. I am sure a 100mm lens is much better, but you can do it with the 100-400mm. BTW i was using mostly the 100mm-200mm range when i was shooting with the extension tubes. 1D III - 1D II - 5D II - 50D - 40D - EOS M.
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TSchrief Goldmember 2,099 posts Joined Aug 2012 Location: Bourbon, Indiana More info | Aug 05, 2012 10:57 | #9 Permanent baninernets wrote in post #14816903 The 100-400mm super telephoto lens is the last lens you would think to use for macro, but if you pop on the kenko extension tubes you can get much closer to the subjects. The minimum focus distance on the lens is 6 feet, so with the tubes you can give more space between the lens and the camera body allowing you to focus at a much closer distance. Using the push-pull design on the lens, i set it to manual and moved the lens or body closer or farther away to frame and focus. Impressive! Now I have to give that a try.
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Aug 05, 2012 11:03 | #10 Sure, they'll work. Give them a try and be sure to post some images here.
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inernets Senior Member 598 posts Joined Dec 2007 Location: D.C. More info | i haven't really messed around with it since the frog photos, but it's worth giving a shot. I was trying to do some tests to figure out which lens i have would be best used with my extension tube set but i didn't have time to finish the tests. 1D III - 1D II - 5D II - 50D - 40D - EOS M.
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Dragonfly with 100-400, no ET or TC. 7D MKII ■ 10-22 ■ 15-85 ■ 28-135 ■ Σ 50-150 ■ 70-200 f4L ■ 100-400L ■ 580EX II
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