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1D X v 1D mark iv - IQ

 
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Aug 06, 2012 07:21 |  #1

Any comparisons or thoughts on the differences between the 1D X & 1D mark iv in IQ?




  
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Aug 06, 2012 07:29 |  #2

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Any comparisons or thoughts on the differences between the 1D X & 1D mark iv in IQ?

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Aug 06, 2012 11:41 |  #3

Charts Farts, let's see some real world actual PHOTOGRAPHS to compare!!


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Aug 06, 2012 12:00 as a reply to  @ Canonswhitelensesrule's post |  #4

/\ +1. I asked on the 1DX thread a while back. Haven't seen anything yet.




  
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Aug 06, 2012 14:04 as a reply to  @ 2slo's post |  #5

I processed the first batch of images today from yesterday's Polo matches, and I did not feel the IQ was much better than the 1D mark iv.




  
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Aug 06, 2012 14:40 |  #6

smclaren wrote in post #14821853 (external link)
I processed the first batch of images today from yesterday's Polo matches, and I did not feel the IQ was much better than the 1D mark iv.

Cool, thanks. Can't wait to see side by side comparison photos.

Esp interested in the low ISO pics.


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Aug 06, 2012 15:55 as a reply to  @ Canonswhitelensesrule's post |  #7

I'd be more interested at the comparative high ISO pics, say at around 8000 SOOC?




  
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Aug 06, 2012 16:10 |  #8

LOL. I don't give a crap about high ISO for what I shoot.

Growing up using Velvia 50 film, I learned to shoot using low ISO's, and if it was too dark, most of the time I just used flash, which I wonder why most people seem to be afraid to use.

Also, wondering why there is so much interest in SOOC. Isn't post processing a normal, standard part of digital photography, so shouldn't it be included in all sample pics?

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Aug 06, 2012 16:17 |  #9

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LOL. I don't give a crap about high ISO for what I shoot.

That's all very well for you, please remember though that what you shoot may not be what everyone else shoots. High ISO is important to me for low light bird and wildlife shots hence my interest. I'm certainly not afraid to use flash, it just isn't appropriate.
Noise reduction procedures vary. The request for SOOC shots is to see exactly what the camera has produced to compare at different ISOs before there are any other variables (such as pp) introduced.




  
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Aug 06, 2012 16:37 |  #10

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That's all very well for you, please remember though that what you shoot may not be what everyone else shoots. High ISO is important to me for low light bird and wildlife shots hence my interest. I'm certainly not afraid to use flash, it just isn't appropriate.
Noise reduction procedures vary. The request for SOOC shots is to see exactly what the camera has produced to compare at different ISOs before there are any other variables (such as pp) introduced.

SOOC shots (assuming JPG from the camera) is already post processed by the firmware, so it is quite difficult to get any comparable "common baseline" of different SOOC shots from different bodies unless you shoot raw, and your raw processing software can completely turn off all NR and other post processing tweaks as it imports it.


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Aug 06, 2012 16:53 |  #11

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SOOC shots (assuming JPG from the camera) is already post processed by the firmware, so it is quite difficult to get any comparable "common baseline" of different SOOC shots from different bodies unless you shoot raw, and your raw processing software can completely turn off all NR and other post processing tweaks as it imports it.

Agreed, I should have been clearer. I shoot only RAW and on 'user defined 1' setting with in camera settings at 0. I do all the adjustments pp. That's how I would compare SOOC shots allowing for, as you say, nothing being applied to images which are imported by external software. Any other way is pointless really especially if in camera settings are applied, e.g. a sharpness setting of 3 on a 1Div will not be the same as 3 on a 1Dx as they use different processors. You'd expect it to apply a similar amount of sharpening but only by turning these settings off could you see a valid comparison.




  
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Aug 06, 2012 17:07 |  #12

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That's all very well for you, please remember though that what you shoot may not be what everyone else shoots. High ISO is important to me for low light bird and wildlife shots hence my interest. I'm certainly not afraid to use flash, it just isn't appropriate.
Noise reduction procedures vary. The request for SOOC shots is to see exactly what the camera has produced to compare at different ISOs before there are any other variables (such as pp) introduced.

Oh I realize that not everyone has the same needs, or curiosities. That's cool.
I have nothing against high ISO sample pics, as long as low ISO pics are also shown.

This is another reason why I love the long, fast, white lenses. The faster the lens, the lower the ISO that can be used.

Hey it's all good.


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Aug 08, 2012 01:09 as a reply to  @ Canonswhitelensesrule's post |  #13

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Aug 08, 2012 01:27 as a reply to  @ smclaren's post |  #15

The same amount of sharpening applied to both, but no noise reduction.

However, the 1D X needed a lot more Exposure, Shadows and Whites increase in Camera Raw 7.1. The 1D X does under exposure.

I also noticed that when the weather closed in a little the Lens was hunting more. There were a few more out of focus in bursts, when the light was good the in focus rate was a 100% it fall to about 90% when the light dropped a little.




  
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