x_tan Cream of the Crop  More info | Aug 07, 2012 00:24 | #1 CPL Question: Far Too Dark In The Outer Area Is 'Natural Look' Or Not?   The Eiger & Kleine Scheidegg, Swiss Alps by X_Tan, on Flickr(This shoot I add about 1 to 2 steps more to 'light up' it already) Personally I rather have more even blue over the whole sky - so I should use Neutral Density or Graduated Neutral Density filter instead? Many thanks Canon 5D3 + Zoom (EF 17-40L, 24-105L & 28-300L, 100-400L II) & Prime (24L II, 85L II, 100L, 135L & 200 f/2.8L II; Zeiss 1,4/35)
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Laramie Still livin' the cowboylife  3,220 posts Joined Nov 2006 Location: Inland Empire, California More info | Aug 07, 2012 00:29 | #2 Looking at the shot as whole, and how the shadows are prominent vs. the small amount of direct sunlight, I don't think it's too uneven, but I see what you mean in looking at it. 5DIII | 40D | 17-40 f4L | Tamron 28-75 2.8 | 50 1.4 | 70-200 2.8L | Oly Zuiko 50 macro | Tamron 1.4x
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bpalermini Goldmember  More info | How wide a lens were you using. Polarizers and medium to super wide lenses don't work well together. I have this problem with a CPL on my 16-35 when it is wider than 22 or so. Bob
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Aug 07, 2012 01:00 | #4 Laramie wrote in post #14824282 Looking at the shot as whole, and how the shadows are prominent vs. the small amount of direct sunlight, I don't think it's too uneven, but I see what you mean in looking at it. Did you shoot any without the CPL? I wonder if you could have played with Saturation/Luminance in ACR and gotten a more even look? bpalermini wrote in post #14824323 How wide a lens were you using. Polarizers and medium to super wide lenses don't work well together. I have this problem with a CPL on my 16-35 when it is wider than 22 or so. I used 24L on 550D / T2i for above one.  Jungfraujoch, Swiss Alps by X_Tan, on FlickrCanon 5D3 + Zoom (EF 17-40L, 24-105L & 28-300L, 100-400L II) & Prime (24L II, 85L II, 100L, 135L & 200 f/2.8L II; Zeiss 1,4/35)
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Whortleberry Goldmember  1,719 posts Likes: 53 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Yorkshire, England More info | Aug 07, 2012 05:55 | #5 x_tan wrote in post #14824269 CPL Question: Far Too Dark In The Outer Area Is 'Natural Look' Or Not? I notice some of my shoots with CPL, the outer area is much into deep dark blue; which I don't feel natural: Personally I rather have more even blue over the whole sky - so I should use Neutral Density or Graduated Neutral Density filter instead?
If you were to take a 180° (horizontal) angle of view image with the camera pointing directly across the fall of sunlight, you would have a sky which was quite pale at each end of the image and quite dark in the centre. Swivel through 90° so the sun is in the centre of the image and you'd have a pale sky in the centre and dark at the edges of the image. Consequently, the wider the angle of view of the lens, the greater the difference visible across the sky. The same would also apply if the sun was just about to set and you pointed the camera straight upwards - darkest at the centre and palest left and right edges, but not at top and bottom edges. Unfortunately, a polarising filter (linear or circular) is not a universal panacea. Very useful on occasion but with wide angle lenses you are virtually guaranteed to get the effect you show. PS. This is all theoretical on my part. Living in the north of England, I have very little recent personal experience of sunshine. I vaguely remember it from 60 years ago when I was a little boy.  - I think our Government have banned it now!   Image hosted by forum (609253) © Whortleberry [SHARE LINK] THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff. Phil ǁ Kershaw Soho Reflex: 4¼" Ross Xpres, 6½" Aldis, Super XX/ABC Pyro in 24 DDS, HP3/Meritol Metol in RFH, Johnson 'Scales' brand flash powder. Kodak Duo Six-20/Verichrome Pan. Other odd bits over the decades, simply to get the job done - not merely to polish and brag about cos I'm too mean to buy the polish!
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^ Great post. Canon 5D3 + Zoom (EF 17-40L, 24-105L & 28-300L, 100-400L II) & Prime (24L II, 85L II, 100L, 135L & 200 f/2.8L II; Zeiss 1,4/35)
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Whortleberry Goldmember 1,719 posts Likes: 53 Joined Dec 2011 Location: Yorkshire, England More info | Aug 07, 2012 07:22 | #7 Whatever setting you find gives the result you want. No rules but sometimes "Less is More". Phil ǁ Kershaw Soho Reflex: 4¼" Ross Xpres, 6½" Aldis, Super XX/ABC Pyro in 24 DDS, HP3/Meritol Metol in RFH, Johnson 'Scales' brand flash powder. Kodak Duo Six-20/Verichrome Pan. Other odd bits over the decades, simply to get the job done - not merely to polish and brag about cos I'm too mean to buy the polish!
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neilgcart Member 143 posts Joined Sep 2010 More info | Aug 09, 2012 16:21 | #8 x_tan wrote in post #14824351 I used 24L on 550D / T2i for above one. Then make sense 17-40L on 5D2 is even worse: Jungfraujoch, Swiss Alps by X_Tan, on FlickrLooks typical for a CPL on a reasonably wide lens.
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Aug 09, 2012 18:04 | #9 Thanks Guys Canon 5D3 + Zoom (EF 17-40L, 24-105L & 28-300L, 100-400L II) & Prime (24L II, 85L II, 100L, 135L & 200 f/2.8L II; Zeiss 1,4/35)
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