1Ds rumours

I see from Canon Rumours that there are murmuring of a second pro-spec body with high MP. I'm not surprised because Canon were unlikely to let Nikon have the whole sector on a plate.

So theres hope for those of us wanting an updated 1Ds yet, even if I think they could have been a little quicker off the mark.

8 FPS at 40MP+ yes when is the 1TB CF card coming at 200MBS for $100???

The latest on CR is a 46 mp 3Dx. Would this be the pro-spec body? I doubt it but the low ISO sensor performance sounds good.

Based on this quote from Chuck Westfall over on dpreview's preview of the 1D x back in October of last year, I wouldn't expect to see anything too soon. 'It's clear the time has come for the 1DX to replace the whole 1D series,' says Westfall.

If Canon's intent is truly to replace the whole 1D lineup with the 1D x as Westfall said, that means there will be no more 1D/1Ds, just the 1D x to do the job of both. The 1D x just started shipping a couple months ago. Canon wouldn't be replacing it inside of six months or even a year I don't think.

ctrout wrote in post #14886082
'It's clear the time has come for the 1DX to replace the whole 1D series,' says Westfall.

If Canon's intent is truly to replace the whole 1D lineup with the 1D x as Westfall said, that means there will be no more 1D/1Ds, just the 1D x to do the job of both. The 1D x just started shipping a couple months ago. Canon wouldn't be replacing it inside of six months or even a year I don't think.

I agree thats been the line Canon have been pushing. Chuck Westall has been a loyal Canon subject repeating it. But looking at it from another angle, I just don't see Canon letting Nikon step in and taking over the whole sector with the D800/D800E line. They will have to offer some resistance and thats why I believe they have had to rethink their original plans. We also agree that this will not happen overnight, 2013 is soon enough.

But a good DR, good low ISO, high MP 1Ds replacement would be my dream camera.

Lowner wrote in post #14886326
I agree thats been the line Canon have been pushing. Chuck Westall has been a loyal Canon subject repeating it. But looking at it from another angle, I just don't see Canon letting Nikon step in and taking over the whole sector with the D800/D800E line. They will have to offer some resistance and thats why I believe they have had to rethink their original plans. We also agree that this will not happen overnight, 2013 is soon enough.

But a good DR, good low ISO, high MP 1Ds replacement would be my dream camera.

I will be up for that. I don't quite know just how many MP's Canon need to conquor the D800/ 800E, but a high MP slow AF geared towards landscapers only, will be something that would interest me as I seem to be doing less and less bird photography these days. ( which is why I went 7D )
Personally, for me 30 MP would be compromise in file size/IQ but I think Canon will go higher just to make sure they put the boot in to Nikon sales. Can Canon develop a sensor to deliver though ??

Ian,

From what I have read, the sensor(s) already exist. They may not have been put into a production body but have made it into beta tested bodies in the field.

Richard,
The next question is the ££££££££££ :-0

Lowner wrote in post #14886326
I agree thats been the line Canon have been pushing. Chuck Westall has been a loyal Canon subject repeating it. But looking at it from another angle, I just don't see Canon letting Nikon step in and taking over the whole sector with the D800/D800E line. They will have to offer some resistance and thats why I believe they have had to rethink their original plans. We also agree that this will not happen overnight, 2013 is soon enough.

But a good DR, good low ISO, high MP 1Ds replacement would be my dream camera.

This is kind of like saying one team lost the game as opposed to the other team winning it. Canon didn't LET Nikon do anything. If you think these companies don't know what the other is doing, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you Each company made a choice to do what they did. Canon's next camera release will most likely be a FF entry level, call it whatever you want to.

h14nha wrote in post #14887700
I will be up for that. I don't quite know just how many MP's Canon need to conquor the D800/ 800E, but a high MP slow AF geared towards landscapers only, will be something that would interest me as I seem to be doing less and less bird photography these days. ( which is why I went 7D )
Personally, for me 30 MP would be compromise in file size/IQ but I think Canon will go higher just to make sure they put the boot in to Nikon sales. Can Canon develop a sensor to deliver though ??

The trick is developing a camera that appeals to many different segments. Pouring money into a camera, just to have it bought by people who shoot landscape, isn't going to cover it. Knowing Canon, if they're going to higher MP, it will be over 40. When that comes, who knows.

h14nha wrote in post #14889125
Richard,
The next question is the ££££££££££ :-0

Sadly, its not going to be cheap is it.

elrey2375 wrote in post #14889205
This is kind of like saying one team lost the game as opposed to the other team winning it. Canon didn't LET Nikon do anything. If you think these companies don't know what the other is doing, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you Each company made a choice to do what they did. Canon's next camera release will most likely be a FF entry level, call it whatever you want to.

No, I actually said that I did not believe Canon would let Nikon have a free run. But while Canon must have known something about the camera Nikon were developing, I get the impression that they missed the fact that it was as major a game changer as it turned out.

I rather like having two big players fighting for my business, it keeps them both honest and hard working.I've used both marques in my life and have been happy with both.

elrey2375 wrote in post #14889217
The trick is developing a camera that appeals to many different segments. Pouring money into a camera, just to have it bought by people who shoot landscape, isn't going to cover it. Knowing Canon, if they're going to higher MP, it will be over 40. When that comes, who knows.

Well if it's the rumoured 46 MP how long before 60 MP plus. How high do they need to go......... Bigger CF/SD cards, more PC storage, the money keeps on rolling out.

Lowner wrote in post #14890682
Sadly, its not going to be cheap is it.

Well surely they have to undercut the D800/800e. If not, and it's a silly price they may as well not bother as I won't spend out. A D800e and a 14-24 just for landscapes maybe the way to go for me. A 5DIII and a 24-70II is £5200 plus. A D800e and 14-24 is approx £4200. A 1K saving isn't to be sniffed at for me, I earn my money the hard way

Canon has had 50+MP sensors designed for at least 5 or 6 years (2007.... http://gizmodo.com …-file-format-to-hold-pics). Not to mention 120MP APS-H within the past couple years (2010.... http://www.canon.com/n​ews/2010/aug24e.html)! Yet they chose to go with speed and high ISO performance in the 1DX.

Canon invented the FF, high MP market niche with the 1Ds and followed up on it with the 5D.... There's no way they are going to cede the over to Nikon/Sony. Despite their marketing releases about the 1DX and Chuck Westfall's commentary, does anyone really believe Canon is now buying their own hype that "smaller is better"?

It's just a matter of time until Canon offers a megapixel monster. Maybe they'll call it something other than 1Ds, but it will be intended to compete with the Nikon/Sony FF offerings.... and to compete with medium format digital cameras as well.