Canon 5D markII with 24-105 $2300 good deal?

I got a store in Montreal that has a 5D mark II with the 24-105, and they sell it at their warehouse at the price of $2300.

So since I got the 7D that I bought a few weeks ago, I will return for this camera, it is a 1000 dollar more, but since I got the 24-105 already, and if i'm capable of selling the lens for 900 apprx, it would mean that I upgrade my 7D for a 5D mark II for only a little more cash....

i think it's a good deal for image quality, and I can resell it and not losing money.
I just hope it's in great condition.

The camera sell for $2800 brand new.

Awesome deal but the price on a 24-105 is more like 775-825$ range atleast in the US. But it is still a great deal for a new 5D2. It is steal.

It's a great deal. The 24-104 is selling used here for ~$900 average...the odd one a bit less, the odd one a bit more.

I don't know Canadian pricing, but 5DII body-only is currently $2100 US at the more reliable US sellers... so with 24-105 that would be one heck of a deal. I'm always suspicious of screamingly good deals! Why are they able to offer it so cheap? Is it a gray market camera and lens that won't be covered under warranty by Canon Canada? I'd do some checks.

As to going from 7D to 5DII.... well I use both and IMO you have to make big prints... really big prints, say 24x36"... before you really see very noticeable benefits of FF in your images. The FF camera captures a little more fine detail, gives slightly more control over depth of field, offers just a little more dynamic range and makes for slightly smoother gradations. The FF camera gives you a bit more control over depth of field and, IMO, is usable about one stop higher ISO (shooting RAW and processing through Lightroom and Photoshop, I'll use my 7Ds to 3200 without much concern, 5DII to 6400).

On the other hand, you'll be giving up relatively recent, fast, high performance auto focus in the 7D for what is essentally an AF system on par with 20D/30D or many of the Rebel/xxxD series. The 5DII viewfinder is slightly larger, but not necessarily any brighter. It's 98% coverage, compared to 100% on 7D. The crop camera can be used with any lens Canon makes, not to mention all the third party lenses made to fit Canon. The full frame camera is limited to full frame lenses, which in many cases are larger, heavier and more expensive than equivalents designed for crop (compare your 10-22 with a 16-35, or compare a 300/4 IS with a 500/4 IS).

Everyone is really gaga about full frame, but it might not be the best choice for everyone. Using them alongside each other for nearly three years now, I find I shoot about 10X as many images with my two 7Ds, as I do with my 5DII. But I shoot a lot of sports/action, where the 7Ds are a much superior choice.

When I'm shooting landscapes where big prints are a possibility, or portraits where fine gradations and a lot of control over depth of field are desirable, or macros where I want to use small apertures without as much concern about diffraction, I'll get out the 5DII for stationary or slow moving subjects. When I'm shooting faster action, I depend upon my 7Ds. My 5DII is usually set to One Shot, while my 7Ds are in AI Servo focus mode most of the time. This is not to say that one can't be used in place of the other, just using each model for the purposes where they most excel. Someone who only shoots more stationary subjects, rarely needs to stop action, might be perfectly delighted with 5DII. Someone who shoots only sports/action might find it frustrating and be better off with 7D.

Both models are great cameras. Of the two, I'd rank the 7D as more versatile overall for experienced shooters... and the 5DII as less versatile, but simpler and easier for less experienced shooters.

Now these may or may not be reasons for you to make the swap.. or not. 5DII might be the more perfect camera for you... Or the 7D you already have might be better. Just some considerations that might help to clarify your choices.

I just bought a 5d2, 24-105L, and 16GB FC for 2575 through buydig. They had a Fry's deal earlier that day for 2450 (without the card). I think it's a good deal to get under 2600 as you could probably sell the lens for 900 which would put the body @ $1,700 which is less than buying a refurb body through Canon. If you can buy through a Canon Authorized dealer for under $2500, you are doing really well.

amfoto1 wrote in post #14892404
I don't know Canadian pricing, but 5DII body-only is currently $2100 US at the more reliable US sellers... so with 24-105 that would be one heck of a deal. I'm always suspicious of screamingly good deals! Why are they able to offer it so cheap? Is it a gray market camera and lens that won't be covered under warranty by Canon Canada? I'd do some checks.

As to going from 7D to 5DII.... well I use both and IMO you have to make big prints... really big prints, say 24x36"... before you really see very noticeable benefits of FF in your images. The FF camera captures a little more fine detail, gives slightly more control over depth of field, offers just a little more dynamic range and makes for slightly smoother gradations. The FF camera gives you a bit more control over depth of field and, IMO, is usable about one stop higher ISO (shooting RAW and processing through Lightroom and Photoshop, I'll use my 7Ds to 3200 without much concern, 5DII to 6400).

On the other hand, you'll be giving up relatively recent, fast, high performance auto focus in the 7D for what is essentally an AF system on par with 20D/30D or many of the Rebel/xxxD series. The 5DII viewfinder is slightly larger, but not necessarily any brighter. It's 98% coverage, compared to 100% on 7D. The crop camera can be used with any lens Canon makes, not to mention all the third party lenses made to fit Canon. The full frame camera is limited to full frame lenses, which in many cases are larger, heavier and more expensive than equivalents designed for crop (compare your 10-22 with a 16-35, or compare a 300/4 IS with a 500/4 IS).

Everyone is really gaga about full frame, but it might not be the best choice for everyone. Using them alongside each other for nearly three years now, I find I shoot about 10X as many images with my two 7Ds, as I do with my 5DII. But I shoot a lot of sports/action, where the 7Ds are a much superior choice.

When I'm shooting landscapes where big prints are a possibility, or portraits where fine gradations and a lot of control over depth of field are desirable, or macros where I want to use small apertures without as much concern about diffraction, I'll get out the 5DII for stationary or slow moving subjects. When I'm shooting faster action, I depend upon my 7Ds. My 5DII is usually set to One Shot, while my 7Ds are in AI Servo focus mode most of the time. This is not to say that one can't be used in place of the other, just using each model for the purposes where they most excel. Someone who only shoots more stationary subjects, rarely needs to stop action, might be perfectly delighted with 5DII. Someone who shoots only sports/action might find it frustrating and be better off with 7D.

Both models are great cameras. Of the two, I'd rank the 7D as more versatile overall for experienced shooters... and the 5DII as less versatile, but simpler and easier for less experienced shooters.

Now these may or may not be reasons for you to make the swap.. or not. 5DII might be the more perfect camera for you... Or the 7D you already have might be better. Just some considerations that might help to clarify your choices.

Well I think the image quality is more of what I want and a full frame is grate at..... what I really need, and of course at that price, it's a great deal.
I noticed that my pics with the 5D had more richness of colors, and sharper too, maybe i'll be called crazy, but so far the test I did with both are conclusive, i'm leaning toward the 5D for IQ..... for that price it's really a extra since I'll be selling my 24-105 that I bought last year.....I don't need two!

And i'll sell my Tokina 11-16 since it's not the perfect match with the 5D.

BY THE WAY THEY GOT ANOTHER ONE AT THE SAME PRICE""""

sega62 wrote in post #14892018
The camera sell for $2800 brand new.

It hasn't been that price for years; it's been bouncing between $1999 and $2200 since June 2011.

http://www.photoprice.​ca …EOS-5D-Mark-II-price.html

You might be best buying this combo, and selling the new (white box) 24-105 instead of your current one. A new white box version will prob get a higher sale price than a used one, since it'll be BNIB and have a warranty attached.

Leopold Stotch wrote in post #14893576
It hasn't been that price for years; it's been bouncing between $1999 and $2200 since June 2011.

http://www.photoprice.​ca …EOS-5D-Mark-II-price.html

You might be best buying this combo, and selling the new (white box) 24-105 instead of your current one. A new white box version will prob get a higher sale price than a used one, since it'll be BNIB and have a warranty attached.

Not really, just the body is $2000

Look over here, but mine is like new........

http://www.lozeau.com …rk-ii-avec-24-105mm-l-is/

amfoto1 wrote in post #14892404
I don't know Canadian pricing, but 5DII body-only is currently $2100 US at the more reliable US sellers... so with 24-105 that would be one heck of a deal. I'm always suspicious of screamingly good deals! Why are they able to offer it so cheap? Is it a gray market camera and lens that won't be covered under warranty by Canon Canada? I'd do some checks.

As to going from 7D to 5DII.... well I use both and IMO you have to make big prints... really big prints, say 24x36"... before you really see very noticeable benefits of FF in your images. The FF camera captures a little more fine detail, gives slightly more control over depth of field, offers just a little more dynamic range and makes for slightly smoother gradations. The FF camera gives you a bit more control over depth of field and, IMO, is usable about one stop higher ISO (shooting RAW and processing through Lightroom and Photoshop, I'll use my 7Ds to 3200 without much concern, 5DII to 6400).

On the other hand, you'll be giving up relatively recent, fast, high performance auto focus in the 7D for what is essentally an AF system on par with 20D/30D or many of the Rebel/xxxD series. The 5DII viewfinder is slightly larger, but not necessarily any brighter. It's 98% coverage, compared to 100% on 7D. The crop camera can be used with any lens Canon makes, not to mention all the third party lenses made to fit Canon. The full frame camera is limited to full frame lenses, which in many cases are larger, heavier and more expensive than equivalents designed for crop (compare your 10-22 with a 16-35, or compare a 300/4 IS with a 500/4 IS).

Everyone is really gaga about full frame, but it might not be the best choice for everyone. Using them alongside each other for nearly three years now, I find I shoot about 10X as many images with my two 7Ds, as I do with my 5DII. But I shoot a lot of sports/action, where the 7Ds are a much superior choice.

When I'm shooting landscapes where big prints are a possibility, or portraits where fine gradations and a lot of control over depth of field are desirable, or macros where I want to use small apertures without as much concern about diffraction, I'll get out the 5DII for stationary or slow moving subjects. When I'm shooting faster action, I depend upon my 7Ds. My 5DII is usually set to One Shot, while my 7Ds are in AI Servo focus mode most of the time. This is not to say that one can't be used in place of the other, just using each model for the purposes where they most excel. Someone who only shoots more stationary subjects, rarely needs to stop action, might be perfectly delighted with 5DII. Someone who shoots only sports/action might find it frustrating and be better off with 7D.

Both models are great cameras. Of the two, I'd rank the 7D as more versatile overall for experienced shooters... and the 5DII as less versatile, but simpler and easier for less experienced shooters.

Now these may or may not be reasons for you to make the swap.. or not. 5DII might be the more perfect camera for you... Or the 7D you already have might be better. Just some considerations that might help to clarify your choices.

I hate to quote your entire post but very well put Alan.

sega62 wrote in post #14893835
Not really, just the body is $2000

Look over here, but mine is like new........

http://www.lozeau.com …rk-ii-avec-24-105mm-l-is/

I should probably clarify that by 'this combo', I meant the one you were considering buying in the OP, and not the body only like I linked to. Not that it changes anything, $2300 minus the sale price of the spare 24-105 is a hell of a deal. Go for it.

Leopold Stotch wrote in post #14894164
I should probably clarify that by 'this combo', I meant the one you were considering buying in the OP, and not the body only like I linked to. Not that it changes anything, $2300 minus the sale price of the spare 24-105 is a hell of a deal. Go for it.

ok,

I went and bought it.
So I can test it for 2 weeks to sse if it's in good shape, it's a camera that someone returned, and it look spotless.
Except for one thing
When I focus with the lens, I noticed, and I got the same on my other lens......that after focusing, I hear a sound from the motor that sounds like if it was a little gear that slows down.... it fades away.
The focus is perfect, and so far so good, it's just a little noisy after the focus, like something loose......it's very subtil

Last week end I was up in the country and my friend's daughter fooled with my camera, taking picture, and after I went to pick it up, I hear a sound from the motor
it's after focusing, I hear a little sound like a gear that slows down, again the lens focus fats and sharp......I wonder what that sound is?