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Aug 23, 2012 01:18 |  #46

If I had the money to spare, yes, in a heartbeat!

You can't take it with you, you only live once, and you'll probably spend it on something frivolous anyway, so why not get something you know you'll at least enjoy.

As far as which lens, either the new 400 2.8L I.S. II with both TC's, or the new 600 f/4 with both T.C.s.

Yes I realize that he could get the 800, but the 400 and 600 are both lighter, and have shorter minimum focus distances so if his subject is closer than I believe 30 feet, which is the 800mm lens' MFD he's can still get the photo. With the 800mm he'd be screwed.

Plus he can shoot the 400 @ f/2.8 if necessary, or the 600 @ f/4...neither of which he can do with the 800.


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Aug 23, 2012 03:12 |  #47

Depends on who you ask. For some, toys could be multi-million dollar yachts, limited edition Ferrari etc.

For me, dropping 12k would be very hard to justify.....to my wife.


  
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Aug 23, 2012 03:24 |  #48

MikeMSD wrote in post #14892623 (external link)
Would you spend $12-$14K for a lens, if you weren't making money on photography?

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Yes I would.




  
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Aug 23, 2012 03:48 |  #49

I am glad to see that there are more hobbyists out there who are serious enough about their hobby to be willing to spend money on it rather than wasting them on let's say alcohol, drugs, gambling, fancy rides, hookers etc because none of these things can create art like high quality equipment can. Also without high quality equipment and just relying on knowledge and skills alone won't take you very far. Good luck using an older Rebel with lenses like the ef-s 18-200mm or ef 75-300 to shoot indoor sports or night concerts. So yes I would definitely spend that much money on a lens if I see the need of it but right now I guess I will have to make do with my "cheapo" 200mm f2L IS :D

Seriously those of you who call photography equipment toys should be ashamed of yourselves. They are tools that create art not some fancy ride to show off on a Friday night.


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Aug 23, 2012 04:32 |  #50

No, 12k is too much for a hobby unless you are a lottery winner. I was in the same spot a few years ago, here are my thoughts.

I thought the 100-400 was too pricey, so I went on safari with a 70-300 IS. I learnt from that and soon bought a 100-400. I figured it was the be all and end all, that was alot of money for me back then. It went with me to India and Galapagos. It is sharp but was less useful in low light especially with my 5Dc. Eventually I bought a Sigma 500 f4.5, I was stoked, the Euro was strong against the pound so I made a great deal. In short, the 100-400 took better pictures, focussed faster and more consitently. So I sold the 500, made a pretty good profit having imported from the UK. I had enough to get a 300 2.8 IS used, pound was still low, buy in the UK. Got me some TCs and WOW. I was impressed. Used that baby for 2 years but found for most of my stuff (here in the forests) I need 600mm most of the time. So then I came to the 500 f4 IS, once I thought it was for lottery winners only, now I found myself in need. So I bought one used, cost me 4100€. I sold the 300. Each time each lens cost a little bit more, so it wasn't such a shock to the system.
Now I have the 500 and cannot be happier. Current used prices are higher than what I paid, so it has not cost me a penny to use it for 2 years, if fact I could make a profit if i sell. But I wont, yet.

Basically what I am saying is, try and find a good used copy and it will not cost you anything providing nothing goes wrong. It is an investment. I am selling shots now, because I have better IQ and sharp shots, so my lenses cost nothing but make money.... cool!

If you are worried about the money buy used, look at the 500 f4. With a TC it gives you 700mm f5.6 and is sharp wide open. It is also far lighter than the 800,400 or 600 options (unless you go mkII). But buy what you need first time, saves all that selling and wondering "what if". The white lenses wont lose value.


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Aug 23, 2012 04:49 |  #51

If I would be earning something like 30-40.000$ per months, I would do it, I think. All depends on how much you earn...it should make sense considering the grand scheme of things in your personal life (financial status, priorities, plans, family, etc).

MikeMSD wrote in post #14892623 (external link)
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard spot. ;)

I'm trying to find a solution to a longer lens. I have a 7D body and a 5D3 body. I have a 70-200mm f2.8 zoom and the 100-400mm f4L zoom. I'd like to have something in the 600 or 800mm range. I would prefer to have a prime but they are costly.

Options include:
1) using my 100-400mm on my crop body, as I do now. But that leaves my new 5D3 kind of out of the picture (no pun intended).

2) using the 100-400mm on my 5D3 and a 2X tele-converter.

3) buying an after-market prime

4) buying a Canon prime

Problem: I'm not a pro and not making any money on photography. I just take photos for fun and for my own use. But I'm a bit of a perfectionist, when I have a choice between good and not so good.

What would be a good solution to hitting that 600 or 800mm goal? Does one lose too much going to a 2x tele-converter? Would a 400mm f2.8L prime, with a 2X even approach the quality of an 800 prime?

Would you spend $12-$14K for a lens, if you weren't making money on photography?

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Aug 23, 2012 12:23 |  #52

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My answer is absolutely yes. Why? because I can capture the moment once in a lifetime of my family. I mean, we can earn $12K but we can't repeat that moment

Sure I get the logic here, but what $12,000 lens does anyone need to get a family picture. Hopfully your family isn't going to do bodily harm to you like a bear would if you get too close. A 800/5.6 isn't a lens I would be using for family shots. A 400/2.8 maybe, but then a much cheaper 400/5.6 could most probably get the shot in a lot of situations too for much less.

I don't see myself ever buying one of the big dog lenses. I would rather spend that money on vacations or earlier retirement.


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Aug 23, 2012 12:33 |  #53

Also consider the Sigma 300-800mm f/5.6 HSM. It does not have IS, but it still seems like a nice lens to have. I was really thinking about it when I was looking into the super tele lenses.


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Aug 23, 2012 12:33 |  #54

FEChariot wrote in post #14896743 (external link)
Sure I get the logic here, but what $12,000 lens does anyone need to get a family picture. Hopfully your family isn't going to do bodily harm to you like a bear would
If you get too close. A 800/5.6 isn't a lens I would be using for family shots. A 400/2.8 maybe, but then a much cheaper 400/5.6 could most probably get the shot in a lot of situations too for much less.

I don't see myself ever buying one of the big dog lenses. I would rather spend that money on vacations or earlier retirement.

Yeap....it would be an interesting experience to photograph an angry and hungry family with nothing to east and not hope of a better future....with a 800mm lens. I think it would be too dangerous to get close with, say...100mm.


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Aug 23, 2012 13:41 |  #55

I will barely spend $12k on a car! :)

If my kids were all settled into adulthood with paid for education and my house was paid for, then why not. But until then I'd feel pretty selfish blowing $12,000 on a lens when I could just use a $1200 500mm sigma zoom or 400mm Canon prime. I can live with 12x18 instead 24x36 prints at this stage of life.


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Aug 23, 2012 14:23 |  #56

I really wanna try the 400mm 5.6. I too would not blow 12k on a lens.


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Aug 23, 2012 14:51 |  #57

For 12K You can get:

- 600LII

Or:
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- 35L
- 24-70L
- 85L
- 70-200LII

No single hair on my head would go for option one. But I am not a big tele user at all.


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Aug 23, 2012 14:54 |  #58

If and only if...noo, I think I'd rather take my family on a vacation; now if I was rich, then yes, I would buy two of those and then give some change to my kids


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Aug 23, 2012 15:22 |  #59

All depends on what you shoot. Started with little 2 MP panasonic p&s. Then met someone who ws shooting F5 with 600mm f4. Looked through that VF once and moved to 10d and 100-400L. Very nice but still no way near supertele picture quality. Later 1dmk2 and 500mm f4, loved the combo. So what it was $5500 for the lens alone. If you can afford it. Sad part was selling it as too busy at work. Unlike sigma gear canon gear doesn't loose much. Better than money in the bank or stock mkt for sure. The newer prices are too much but then those lenses are little better and weigh less.


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Aug 23, 2012 15:28 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #60

MikeMSD wrote in post #14893059 (external link)
Good point. I do print images, but mostly for my wife. And I would print some on paper, no larger than 8x10. Most of mine never make it to print. But would/could/might be viewed on the larger HD monitors, used for TV. My original consideration was for the raw image quality only. Kind of a quest for the best solution, without regard for how it would actually be viewed.

Use your 100-400 and crop. You don't need anything better for these purposes. If you want, you can pay me 50% of what you would have wasted as a consultancy fee! ;)




  
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