No Flash on wedding

Red Tie Photography wrote in post #14978762
Im sure it was just a typo, but the farther away, the MORE depth of field you have (meaning more will be in focus).

I should have worded it better. My point was because you'll have more dof from a distance you'll have less to be concerned about.

scorpio_e wrote in post #14975868
I use NR in light room if I shoot 1600 and above.

don't you find the pic soft? I found mine is quite soft specially wide open F/2.8.

Last Saturday with 5D3, 24-70 F/2.8 on the boat... after NR is ok but details are gone on ISO1600 and NR is only 50% in LR or maybe I was too picky lol

That's my issue. The church is quite small, in fact the smallest I've ever been to and the position I've been told to stand is actually pretty close and slightly to one side meaning the B&G won't be on the same plane. At most i reckon it's 2-2.5 meters.

Looks like monopod and steady hands it is!

I've recently had to add some NR onto some pictures in Lightroom. I never go above 30 for the NR value due to losing details, then make sure I apply sharpening and also a fair amount of clarity (24-32) to regain the details. Also, the 'masking' slider in the sharpening settings is a godsend.

tefu wrote in post #14979783
don't you find the pic soft? I found mine is quite soft specially wide open F/2.8.

Last Saturday with 5D3, 24-70 F/2.8 on the boat... after NR is ok but details are gone on ISO1600 and NR is only 50% in LR or maybe I was too picky lol

I think you are being WAY too picky about noise. If you shot it right, you should have very little noise at 1600 on the 5d3. If you underexposed it by 2 stops I can see that, but I dont use NR on anything really and havent heard one single complaint.

tefu wrote in post #14979783
don't you find the pic soft? I found mine is quite soft specially wide open F/2.8.

Last Saturday with 5D3, 24-70 F/2.8 on the boat... after NR is ok but details are gone on ISO1600 and NR is only 50% in LR or maybe I was too picky lol

50% NR in lightroom is overboard imho
like redtie said, unless you severly underexposed or something, you should never have to apply that much NR in LR, especially with a 5d2 or 3. unless they changed the way NR is in LR4? I haven't upgraded quite yet.

on the 5D3, 6400 looks like ISO 100 to me especially using my 85 f/1.8, no NR at all.

yeah I think I am too picky, the exposure is ok. if I see it on my 23" monitor, it's fine, looks like ISO 200 or 400 even. but I am just scared if they print on the Massive canvas size, that's reason I put NR to 40-50 in LR5 depending on the details as I don't want to loose the details specially on the face.

you can also try the photoshop plugins called TopazDeNoise.

got that too but I don't wanna do one by one for 1200 photos (not all needed) I like LR coz I can copy and paste the setting

you have a point.

If I can use no flash, that is what I will do ! Totally.

thanks Sarah....

I've just picked up on this thread and I really don't use flash at all during weddings (which is pretty much all I shoot professionally). I honestly think with the fast primes ans the high ISO support of the modern cameras there is practically no need for flash (unless for creative means of course) for reportage photography which is what I shoot. I don't even take a flash to weddings any longer - but I don't do the creative stuff that some do, that would of course, require OCF etc. Good thread and enjoyed the read.

Thanks for your input Kevin. I am a converted fan to natural lighting now. it's much much better.