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another ST-E3 RT or 600EX RT?

 
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Aug 23, 2012 20:54 |  #1

Hi,
if i already got a 600EX-RT and i like to get a trigger that sits on the camera. should i get a ST-E3 RT or another 600EX RT?

what are the benefit of the ST-E3 RT over another flash unit?
Advantages:
Weight, size and the viewing angle might be better than reading from an attached 600RT. $ is another benefit.

Disadvantages;
i also know that ST-E3 does not help focusing with that "beam" (mental block here)... ooh ETTL.

Please share your thoughts. Function wise, i heard its the same with controlling of flashes etc.

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Aug 23, 2012 23:28 |  #2

IMO, if you're going the RT route, one would think you might want more than one flash. So it comes down to ........ are you ready to drain your bank account?




  
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Aug 23, 2012 23:38 |  #3

I'm considering these options too but I'm leaning more towards getting another 600. Here's why, with the 600 I can use both the flash and the off camera trigger and I have focus beams. Yes I know it's twice the price as the ST-E3 but to me it's worth it in the long end.


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Aug 23, 2012 23:39 |  #4

thanks Pi_314,
no doubt that i would be getting more flash, it's just that im not sure if i should even have justification to get the ST-E3 RT with flash units or flash units all the way.

Julius, my extact thoughts but now, i have the chance to get one ST-E3 just under 300. so i reconsider....


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Aug 24, 2012 00:04 |  #5

The only reason for getting the ST-E3 RT, is for the smaller footprint, and to lighten the load. For some people, that's plenty reason enough, was for me as I ordered one just yesterday. Gotta say that I love the whole system as I go broke buying into it. It is what it is.




  
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Aug 24, 2012 04:34 |  #6

I would get another 600, if you only have one flash at the moment. The on camera flash can act as a fill. I also picked up a ST-E3 in case I want to get both of them off camera and in this case to have a lighter option when I don't need on camera flash. So, get both.


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Aug 24, 2012 04:39 |  #7

I've been thinking about this also. If the ST had the focus beam I doubt I would be hesitant. But in they'd I want at least 2 600's so I am thinking about it - really shouldn't be spending more $$ right now tho.

I'd go the 600 if I had more cash, so that's my recommendation to you. Can always add an ST later on and have an awesome dual flash setup!


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Aug 24, 2012 14:06 |  #8

I just got my ST-E3-ST today and it is significantly smaller/lighter on top of the camera. I might not use it often, but I think it is a worthwhile purchase. For low light, always use an on-camera flash for fill and another off camera, so the extra 600 will work best in this case. I will use the ST-E3 to trigger the 600 flashes in a portable studio setup, so the lack of AF assist wasn't an issue at all for me. In fact, I would prefer it didn't have AF assist if it were to make the unit larger/heavier/costlie​r.


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Aug 24, 2012 16:38 |  #9

If only the AF worked while the modeling light was active...


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Aug 24, 2012 16:51 |  #10

IMHO, 600EX RT is too expensive and only slightly improvement (CMIIW). I still prefer using the old 580EX II plus flash trigger


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Aug 24, 2012 17:08 |  #11

580EX II - $474.00
PW Flex TT5 - $229.00
Total - $713.00 (and less functionality) (or $613.00 by going Odins - and still less functionality)

or

600EX-RT - $629.00 (579.00 now) ($16 more than Odins when priced @ $629 - but lose integration and functionality for $16)

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Aug 24, 2012 17:11 |  #12

^ Definitely agree, no going back to 580EX II after using the new system.


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Aug 24, 2012 17:22 |  #13

If you only have one 600, then I would recommend to get another 600 to have on-camera fill flash. Later on you can get the ST-E3 so you can have both off-camera flashes.


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Aug 24, 2012 17:53 |  #14

If you are using the flash in a professional setting, going with another 600 also gives you a backup flash.


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Aug 24, 2012 19:07 |  #15

Indecent Exposure wrote in post #14902469 (external link)
580EX II - $474.00
PW Flex TT5 - $229.00
Total - $713.00 (and less functionality) (or $613.00 by going Odins - and still less functionality)

or

600EX-RT - $629.00 (579.00 now) ($16 more than Odins when priced @ $629 - but lose integration and functionality for $16)

?

What's the advantage of ST-E3 compared to Odin?
I read *again* ST-E3 specs, I think I only miss 'stroboscopic'


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