Aug 29, 2012 14:23 | #1 The U.S. Nationals, the world's biggest drag race, begins with hundreds of sportsman racers. While they're called sportsmen, many of the drivers are women.
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kscuda Member 116 posts Likes: 9 Joined Jul 2011 Location: olathe, ks More info | Aug 29, 2012 20:28 | #2 Looking good, hope to be there Friday myself and take some pictures
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DavidStallard Goldmember  More info | Aug 30, 2012 06:45 | #3 Lovely and crisp, yes you can see the tyre ripple and yes they have their front wheels up BUT they all look a little too static, drop the shutter speed down just a touch and you will nail them.  .DAVID. PS: 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 should all be given to me - in fact any one of them would be good  R3 box that goes click and some tubes with glass in them on the front.
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Aug 30, 2012 08:26 | #4 David Stallard wrote in post #14925579  BUT they all look a little too static, These cars were static.
Focal Length: 238.0mm Aperture: f/13.0 Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125) ISO equiv: 100 Exposure Bias: none Metering Mode: Matrix Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto) White Balance: Auto Flash Fired: No (enforced) Orientation: Normal Color Space: sRGB But, by this time, the wheelstands are over and will not happen again. A Stock car carries the wheelstand only a short distance and it still hasn't come up to speed.. So, there's a choice, either capture the big wheelstands at the start line, or get a motion blur panning shot with the cars flat on the pavement. In this case, the decision was to capture the wheelstands, which are pretty much unique for this class of car. Another reason to choose these images: there were several photographers, wearing brightly colored "Media " vests at the wall. They were in the frame from the grandstand location from which these pictures were taken.
Had those images been posted, inevitably someone would have criticized the pictures for having these distractions. So, often, there are choices that are made for reasons that are known only to those who were at the event.
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DavidStallard Goldmember More info | Sorry fella, no offence meant - Just used to a little motion even on the wheels off the ground. R3 box that goes click and some tubes with glass in them on the front.
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Aug 30, 2012 11:04 | #6 David Stallard wrote in post #14926338 Sorry fella, no offence meant - Just used to a little motion even on the wheels off the ground. We don't normally get many wheelies unless they really screw up the launch, didn't realise it was part of the NHRA, done more than a few years racing the quarter and it was always the form to keep the front down. As for the 'distractions' Nope, I don't get it either - we cover racing, there are and will be people / media / cones / barriers and all sorts of other things in the backgrounds - we all know they are they are there and they are part and parcel of it, same as "shots too central". . . . really? I want to see as much of the subject as possible, if I want a photo / print of some track and a fence then I'm sure it can be arranged. Too many people now read the 'rules' and refuse to deviate from them, apologies again if I offended, wasn't my intention. .DAVID. No offense taken or experienced. Sometimes, an explanation helps clear up assumptions. Even the most basic-appearing images can have a moderately complex reasoning as their source Besides, I figured out the "panning shot" techniques a long time ago. They're just not suitable for every situation.
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Aug 31, 2012 23:02 | #7 All i know is those are some killer shots and thanks for posting them. I am headed over there Sat. Hopeing from the west side in A sec to get a few ok shots. I love the Drags . Keith-EOS R 7D MarkII EOS REBEL T2i 18-55,55-250.85 1/8. 100-400L. 10-22 f/3.5-4.5. 24-105mm f/4L IS,70-200 II,RF 24-105
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coldshooter Member 30 posts Joined May 2009 Location: Fairbanks AK More info | Sep 01, 2012 20:48 | #8 Grumpy's Toy brings back great memories of the Super Stock then early years of pro stock. Good thing the cars were slower then with TriX and Kodachrome to shoot with.
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medicdude Goldmember 1,904 posts Likes: 19 Joined Sep 2007 Location: Sacramento, Ca More info | Sep 02, 2012 14:42 | #9 Good pics. Great to see Connolly driving something again. Dustin
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timberlandlh Senior Member  450 posts Joined Nov 2011 More info | Sep 02, 2012 23:12 | #10 Excellent captures. I was there on Friday to watch my friends the Westcott's run each of their 68' Hemi Barracuda's. Charlie jr won the event....I'm uploading 30 photo's now from all classes on Friday. I shot 1035 photo's, it's hard to choose a few to post....we left Sat at noon as the rain was setting in. Canon S100 and Canon 7D, Canon 28-300L 3.5/5.6 IS, Canon 70-200L 2.8 non IS, Canon 10-22 I'll give it a lil "l", Canon 50 1.8, LEE 10X Filter, Benro Travel Angel A-169....REI back pack, hiking boots and a photogenic black labrador
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JMAST Member  110 posts Likes: 3 Joined Jun 2007 Location: NILES. IL More info | Sep 05, 2012 09:19 | #11 DC Fan wrote in post #14925773 These cars were static. In the NHRA, Stock racers are the slowest category. At the point these cars are shown in the above, they've just launched, and haven't gotten past the "Christmas tree," a few feet beyond the starting line. The images were selected to show the cars at the height of their wheelstands, and they're barely moving at that point. The motion blur that comes from the "so-called" panning shot requires much more speed than a Stock car generates in 50 feet, You need to be further down track, as happened in this example. But, by this time, the wheelstands are over and will not happen again. A Stock car carries the wheelstand only a short distance and it still hasn't come up to speed.. So, there's a choice, either capture the big wheelstands at the start line, or get a motion blur panning shot with the cars flat on the pavement. In this case, the decision was to capture the wheelstands, which are pretty much unique for this class of car. Another reason to choose these images: there were several photographers, wearing brightly colored "Media " vests at the wall. They were in the frame from the grandstand location from which these pictures were taken. Sorry, I'll tend to disagree with you there. Any object in motion can be made to look like it's traveling at greater speed than it actually is, given a slow enough shutter speed. Your shutter speed of 1/500 of a second is just too fast, causing the cars to appear static.    Even if you don't acheive motion blur in the background, at least strive to show some motion in the cars' wheels. This will make your photos come to life and not make them look "static". Don't be afraid to lower your shutter speed and experiment. I hope you don't mind me posting my examples on your thread, just trying to show whats possible. Thanks, John. 7D w/Canon grip, G12, 30D w/Canon grip, Canon 70-200L 2.8 , Canon 100-400L, Canon 28-135 IS 3.5 ,Sigma 18-50 2.8,Tokina 11-16 2.8,Canon 50 1.8
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Nmura Senior Member 732 posts Likes: 122 Joined Apr 2009 Location: Hawaii More info | Sep 05, 2012 17:02 | #12 Static or motion blurr, just depends on one's taste and what they want to achieve. Those are all excellent tips and samples. Thank you all for sharing. I'll be headed to Las Vegas next month for the NHRA races, can't wait.
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Sep 05, 2012 19:37 | #13 JMAST wrote in post #14950356 ust trying to show whats possible Like these pictures I took several years ago?
Image Date: 2009-06-13 11:09:11 (no TZ) Focal Length: 120.0mm Aperture: f/18.0 Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125) ISO equiv: 100 Exposure Bias: none Metering Mode: Average Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto) White Balance: Auto Flash Fired: No (enforced) Orientation: Normal Color Space: sRGB GPS Coordinate: undefined, undefined
There are many more of the slow shutter speed "panning" images in my collection, from many events involving many types of racers.
However, I don't use that technique each and every time. One wonders what photographers would think if they were required to use a specific technique each time they covered an event.
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SampsonImages Member 166 posts Likes: 6 Joined May 2012 Location: Southern Maryland More info | Sep 05, 2012 20:21 | #14 |
JMAST Member 110 posts Likes: 3 Joined Jun 2007 Location: NILES. IL More info | Sep 05, 2012 21:02 | #15 DC Fan wrote in post #14925773 The motion blur that comes from the "so-called" panning shot requires much more speed than a Stock car generates in 50 feet, You need to be further down track. Not questioning the technique you chose, just a little puzzled by your quote. 7D w/Canon grip, G12, 30D w/Canon grip, Canon 70-200L 2.8 , Canon 100-400L, Canon 28-135 IS 3.5 ,Sigma 18-50 2.8,Tokina 11-16 2.8,Canon 50 1.8
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