DanKearley Senior Member 426 posts Likes: 32 Joined Aug 2012 More info | Aug 30, 2012 16:01 | #1 Sorry... I know this question has probably been asked.. but I barely have a grip on flash use, so I need to ask in 'my terms'
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tim Light Bringer  51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Aug 30, 2012 17:25 | #2 I think the II has manual control, the I only has ETTL, but I could be wrong since I've never owned either. Manual is necessary for off camera flash. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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Aug 30, 2012 17:27 | #3 I think for more like 210ish, I could have the newer version. I might hold out.
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tmwag Brown Noser has crush on Suzyview  More info | The 430EXII... more power, faster recycle time between shots, metal foot, better quick release from hot shoe. More compatible with radio triggers
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Aug 30, 2012 17:34 | #5 By the way... can I manually, MANUALLY trigger the flash? (like hold it by my side during a 30sec exposure and trigger by hand?)
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drvnbysound Goldmember 3,316 posts Likes: 12 Joined Aug 2009 More info | Aug 30, 2012 17:36 | #6 Dan Kearley wrote in post #14928019  By the way... can I manually, MANUALLY trigger the flash? (like hold it by my side during a 30sec exposure and trigger by hand?) Sure... just press the pilot button once it's illuminated (red). I use manual exposure settings on the copy machine
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dedsen Goldmember  2,580 posts Likes: 34 Joined Aug 2006 More info | Aug 30, 2012 17:53 | #7 tim wrote in post #14927983 I think the II has manual control, the I only has ETTL, but I could be wrong since I've never owned either. Manual is necessary for off camera flash. This is not true. They both have manual and eTTL modes.
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tim Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Aug 30, 2012 17:54 | #8 dedsen wrote in post #14928079 This is not true. They both have manual and eTTL modes. Oh ok, maybe I'm thinking of the old 420EX. I've only ever owned 5xx series flashes. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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dedsen Goldmember 2,580 posts Likes: 34 Joined Aug 2006 More info | Aug 30, 2012 17:58 | #9 You are thinking about the 420ex. It does not have manual mode.
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msowsun "approx 8mm"  More info | Aug 30, 2012 18:15 | #10 Dan Kearley wrote in post #14927655 Sorry... I know this question has probably been asked.. but I barely have a grip on flash use, so I need to ask in 'my terms'  I can get a 430ex for 190$. Not the best price, but not bad either as far as I can tell. Is there any reason I should instead get the version2? Or for that matter, should I avoid used, and buy new? It appears to me that the version2 is an improvement, but nothing that I'll really wish I had.
 If that isn't enough, here are a few more reasons: 1) Metal Hotshoe 2) Quick release mechanism 3) Silent recycle 4) Faster recycle 5) Nine Custom Functions (vs 6 on 430EX)  Mike Sowsun / SL1 / 80D / EF-S 24mm STM / EF-S 10-18mm STM / EF-S 18-55mm STM / EF-S 15-85mm USM / EF-S 55-250mm STM / 5D3 / Samyang 14mm 2.8 / EF 40mm 2.8 STM / EF 50mm 1.4 USM / EF 100mm 2.0 USM / EF 100mm 2.8 USM Macro / EF 24-105mm IS / EF 70-200mm 2.8L IS Mk II / EF 100-400 II / EF 1.4x II
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oldvultureface Goldmember  More info | The 430EX in manual mode is settable in one stop increments and the II in one-third stop increments. Also, with the newer cameras (40D and beyond), the II model is completely controllable from the flash control menu of the camera.
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Aug 30, 2012 18:26 | #12 I just picked up a 430 exII from the canon refurbished store for $203.00. They did have a %15 sale on with free shipping. It looks brand new. Unfortunately the sale is over but I think they do this several times a year. Canon 6D | Canon 7DII | 17-40 f/4L | 24-105 f/4L | 70-300 4/5.6L |100mm f/2.8L macro | 50mm 1.4 | 580exII | 2 - 430exII |
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