Yongnuo ?? (NEWB)

Hey... I see I can get a Yongnuo flash for a lot less than Canon.

If I was looking for a used 430exII, should I instead go for a equal Yongnuo ? Or even a model up?

Thanks for the advice;
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I suppose the YN565EX is the one I'd look for?

I have a Yn560 which I bought before the ettl yn565 came out. It's a good flash. Lots of people here like them, especially those of us that don't do this for living. Before I knew about Yongnou I was hemming and hawing over getting a 430exII and not wanting to spend the money - especially since I didn't really know what a flash was going to do for me... turns out it does a lot! Go figure!

You can get a YN565 for about $150. It is supposed to be the power equivalent of the big Canon flash (but doesn't have the ettl command capability - if you don't know what this is you didn't need it). You'll never regret having an extra stop of power available.

If you decide you need the canon later on, you'll still have this as a back up for only $150. And then you can try doing some multi flash work.

I ordered the YN565EX. Can't wait.

For anyone else interested, this looks like a great resource:

http://speedlights.net …o-yn-565-ex-flash-review/

I have two older Yongnuo flashes that have worked flawlessly for the last few years (admittedly, I don't use them a lot) I would take a look at the new 568EX! Lots of bells and whistles for the price, including HSS! Conversation here. . . https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1220090


:EDIT: Oops. . .missed your post where you already made a purchase! Enjoy!

I bought my 2nd 565 this week.
As far as I'm concerned, they leave the canons for dead. All the 580s I have used, ( and it's probably more than half a dozen different units with what I have borrowed) had no where near the quality of light and the metering accuracy of the cheapies.

The light is beautifully neutral in colour balance, the coverage is even edge to edge even with wide lenses, the Ettl accuracy is great and the light fall off is very gentle which is the complete opposite to the canons I have used.

I paid $165 for my 565, here in oz a 580 is around the $500 mark. I'd pay 500 for the youngo but its way too much for what you get with the canon IMHO.
I have only had the 565 a couple of months but I'm hammering the thing. Last week I did about 3000 shots with it. This week will be a hell of a lot more. I also went and bought extra batteries to try and keep up.
I also bought a cheapie Chinese powerpack that takes an additional 8 Batteries to keep up and keep up it does.

I bought the 2nd unit and there will probably be more to come because I was so damn happy with the first one. I also don't expect anything to last that long with the hammering I'm giving them and the conditions in which i'm using them but I have confidence they will stand up at least as good as the canons.

With the work I'm doing and the amount of pics I'm churning out, ( school work) equipment is basically disposable. Makes no sense to me to use a $500 product when a $165 one will do the job better and has every expectation of just as good a longevity. In any case, if the things only last 1/3rd as long, I'm still better off quality wise.

On a satisfaction rate, I'd give the 565's a 9.9/10 and I'm using the things daily doing more pics than most will do in a year.

I have the 468 II that I picked up from Amazon and it's been great, but the lack of high speed sync was sort of a bummer. They've apparently launched a brand new model (568EX) in the last few days that brings that and a few extra enhancements to the table. I've put my order in from their eBay page, but apparently it may take as long as a month to get here from Hong Kong.

nes_matt wrote in post #14936154
I have a Yn560 which I bought before the ettl yn565 came out. It's a good flash. Lots of people here like them, especially those of us that don't do this for living. Before I knew about Yongnou I was hemming and hawing over getting a 430exII and not wanting to spend the money - especially since I didn't really know what a flash was going to do for me... turns out it does a lot! Go figure!

You can get a YN565 for about $150. It is supposed to be the power equivalent of the big Canon flash (but doesn't have the ettl command capability - if you don't know what this is you didn't need it). You'll never regret having an extra stop of power available.

If you decide you need the canon later on, you'll still have this as a back up for only $150. And then you can try doing some multi flash work.

Im new to flashes too, can someone explain to me what the diff is between ettl (like canon flashes) and ttl like these Yongnuo?
bascially what can the canon do that these Yongnuo can't?
thanks

The canon 580 can control other flashes that are not mounted to the camera. Other than that it's just semantics.

TTL means "through the lens" metering

nes_matt wrote in post #14936597
The canon 580 can control other flashes that are not mounted to the camera. Other than that it's just semantics.

TTL means "through the lens" metering

so ettl?

i just moved up to a 5d mkii, have not got into flashes yet obviously. can my 5d mkii wirelessly (off camera) fire a flash? or do i have to have a trigger or flash (like canon 580) mounted to the camera to trigger an off camera flash?

thanks

kboater wrote in post #14936663
so ettl?

i just moved up to a 5d mkii, have not got into flashes yet obviously. can my 5d mkii wirelessly (off camera) fire a flash? or do i have to have a trigger or flash (like canon 580) mounted to the camera to trigger an off camera flash?

thanks

5DMkII wont be able to control a flash wirelessly unless you have a trigger attached to the hotshoe. 7D and T3i can trigger flashes remotely as they do have wireless capability.

kboater wrote in post #14936663
so ettl?

i just moved up to a 5d mkii, have not got into flashes yet obviously. can my 5d mkii wirelessly (off camera) fire a flash? or do i have to have a trigger or flash (like canon 580) mounted to the camera to trigger an off camera flash?

thanks

e-ttl = evaluative ttl

shamelessly borrowed from http://super.nova.org/​DPR/Canon/TTL/:

Consigliere, thank you.
would not have guessed that t3i could trigger a flash wirelessly, but my 5d mkii cannot....

Nes_matt,
thanks for the info. very interesting read. Earlier in your first response in this thread, you say "...I have a Yn560 which I bought before the ettl yn565 came out....You can get a YN565 for about $150. It is supposed to be the power equivalent of the big Canon flash (but doesn't have the ettl command capability..."
Im confused, does the Yn 565 have ettl? it looks like you said it does, then said it does not?

And sorry, guess im slow right now, but practically speaking (i read the info nes_matt linked to) I still dont understand the diff between the Canon and Yongnuo

thanks everyone, and sorry OP im not trying to hijack your thread, but I think I may have the same questions as you

kboater: if you're buying your first flash, you have nothing to worry about. Get which ever you prefer.

Here's the deal:
1) All the canon and the ttl YN flashes will take info from your camera and scale the flash output to be as close to appropriate as it is capable of. (bigger flash, more $, more power)
2) If you wan't to use any ONE of these flashes off camera, you can use a ttl cord to get it off camera and still use the camera's 'smarts' to figure out the exposure.
3) If you want to use any number of these flashes off camera in manual mode, no problem: get a set of cheap YN radio triggers and put them in manual mode.
4) If you want to use multiple flashes off camera and have the camera do the work figuring out power then you need one of two things:
a) a flash mounted to your camera capable of "commanding" the other ttl flashes that are not on the camera. This means only the canon 580 for a mountable flash. The canon 7D camera has this capability built into its pop-up flash.
b) a fancier set of radio trigger that you don't need to worry about right now (see numerous other threads on the topic).

regarding my comment on the yn565:

It will work in ttl on camera
It can be a ttl slave (off camera) - but then you need a master to tell it what to do - same as all the rest.
It can NOT be a ttl master - only the canon 580exII will do that.

You can also compare flash vs flash here:
http://speedlights.net …del=YN565&model​2=580EX+II