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Night: The AeroShell Aerobatic Team's Gene McNeely in a AT-6 Texan.

 
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Sep 02, 2012 11:22 |  #1

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2. Shooting at night is "interesting", to say the least about it. Exposure can be zeroed in on, but focus? Not so much. Manual worked fairly well... for some shots. ; )

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Oct 10, 2012 09:36 |  #2

More night shots here: Night Air Show - Alma, MI

Night Air Show, part #2. Aircraft & Fireworks... lotsa' fun?


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Oct 10, 2012 12:53 |  #3

Lovely light in #1, Frank. I guess you didn't have too much of a problem getting the prop blur?




  
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Oct 10, 2012 15:49 as a reply to  @ mhm2526's post |  #4

I really like the cowl lights (LEDs?) Gene has. They make an otherwise boring bit of the plane into a focus point for a photo.

I got a couple of him earlier this year:
http://moving-target-photos.com …ides/IMG_2810_s​creen.html (external link)
http://moving-target-photos.com …ides/IMG_2794_s​creen.html (external link)

You mentioned focus issues. I've had pretty good luck with the 100-400mm IS on a 40D at night (although maybe some softness I've attributed to motion could be AF-caused). It'd been a while since I used my 20D for that kind of stuff, but I seem to remember it did OK at night, too.


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Oct 10, 2012 19:13 |  #5

mhm2526 wrote in post #15104132 (external link)
Lovely light in #1, Frank. I guess you didn't have too much of a problem getting the prop blur?

; D When it's that dark, the problem is "everything blur"!

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I really like the cowl lights (LEDs?) Gene has. They make an otherwise boring bit of the plane into a focus point for a photo.

I got a couple of him earlier this year:
http://moving-target-photos.com …ides/IMG_2810_s​creen.html (external link)
http://moving-target-photos.com …ides/IMG_2794_s​creen.html (external link)

Those are excellent shots! Looking at the EXIF & the clouds in some of them, I suspect that you might have had a bit more light than I did. (Not an excuse... just an observation.)

You mentioned focus issues. I've had pretty good luck with the 100-400mm IS on a 40D at night (although maybe some softness I've attributed to motion could be AF-caused). It'd been a while since I used my 20D for that kind of stuff, but I seem to remember it did OK at night, too.

IS? Vas is das "IS"? I like to push the limits, but the night air show is one of the most difficult things that I've shot. I'm looking forward to next years show.

Thanks for the comments, guys!


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Oct 10, 2012 22:13 |  #6

PhotosGuy wrote in post #15105718 (external link)
Those are excellent shots! Looking at the EXIF & the clouds in some of them, I suspect that you might have had a bit more light than I did. (Not an excuse... just an observation.)

I think they are pretty similar. We both shot at ISO 1600. You had 1/100s @ f/2.8, I had 1/50s @ f/4.

All I know is I had a couple of sharp(ish) shots from many (many!) frames...

Was Gene flying solo in that show?

One of the shots I keep trying to get is the formation flying through their own smoke like these shots:
http://moving-target-photos.com …slides/IMG_0998​_800w.html (external link)
http://moving-target-photos.com …ides/IMG_9385_s​creen.html (external link)

One thing that's king of cool in the formations is when you get some "fill flash" from one of the plane's strobe. If you look in the second shot (above), the far left plane's cowl is much sharper and brighter than any other plane parts in the frame. You can see the wingtip strobe on the next plane is firing during the open-shutter time.

Aside: a friend of mine likes to shoot them with a 580ex. You have to be pretty close (essentially directly underneath the path) to get close enough, but he's gotten some really cool shots with that setup.


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Oct 10, 2012 23:22 |  #7

My comments aside in your other thread of the same subject, #1 here is pretty solid.

Except at 95mm, I would have liked to think you could have dragged the shutter to at least 1/30, bursted and gotten a couple of keepers. Would have disc'd that idling propeller up good and proper (ok, not really on a T-6, but it would have been closer). Would have liked to see the aircraft 0.3 - 0.7 more over exposed.


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Oct 10, 2012 23:44 |  #8

rammsteinmatt wrote in post #15106576 (external link)
Except at 95mm, I would have liked to think you could have dragged the shutter to at least 1/30, bursted and gotten a couple of keepers. Would have disc'd that idling propeller up good and proper...

Actually, I'll bet with much longer shutter-speed and no reflection off the prop it might have completely disappeared. As it is it's just a ghost blur.


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Oct 11, 2012 08:48 |  #9

GeoffSobering wrote in post #15106358 (external link)
I think they are pretty similar. We both shot at ISO 1600. You had 1/100s @ f/2.8, I had 1/50s @ f/4.

I was looking at the sky in this shot:
http://moving-target-photos.com …ides/IMG_2894_s​creen.html (external link)
The "NASCAR burnout" shots came at the end of the flight at my show, after landing & taxi, so it looked to me like you were shooting in earlier light.

All I know is I had a couple of sharp(ish) shots from many (many!) frames...

"A couple". Me, too. I'd expected a bit better performance than that. (sigh.)

Was Gene flying solo in that show?

No. See the links in post #2 for some team shots.

Aside: a friend of mine likes to shoot them with a 580ex. You have to be pretty close (essentially directly underneath the path) to get close enough, but he's gotten some really cool shots with that setup.

Got a link? I've done something similar with football. It's amazing how far a strobe will reach when you're shooting wide open at high ISOs.

rammsteinmatt wrote in post #15106576 (external link)
Would have liked to see the aircraft 0.3 - 0.7 more over exposed.

I can understand the thought. Since I was shooting for night shots, maybe I went a little too far to emphasize that.

Thanks for the comments!


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