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Sep 02, 2012 18:14 |  #1

When shooting a subject such as a person outdoors. Of course, the person should be in focus and the background blurred. My question is this, to give the shallow DOF using low aperture what should the metering mode be on? Spot metering, center weight or multi-segment metering.....


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Sep 02, 2012 18:20 |  #2

DOF is a function of aperture, not metering mode. The two aren't really related. If you set your aperture to something like f/2.8 or f/4, you'll have a fairly narrow DOF regardless of the metering mode or exposure.




  
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Sep 02, 2012 18:21 |  #3

In manual you choose the aperture, not the camera. You then use the meter to determine how you want to expose the scene. Normally I use spot metering on the subject to make sure they are exposed correctly or I'll meter something that I know will give me a neutral exposure; like grass.


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Sep 02, 2012 18:38 |  #4

mdaddyrabbit wrote in post #14939468 (external link)
When shooting a subject such as a person outdoors. Of course, the person should be in focus and the background blurred. My question is this, to give the shallow DOF using low aperture what should the metering mode be on? Spot metering, center weight or multi-segment metering.....

In these examples, the camera happened to be in evaluative metering, but the only factors in having a shallow depth of field were the focal length, aperture and distance to the subject.

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Focal Length: 200.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0005 s (1/2000)
ISO equiv: 100
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB

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Focal Length: 200.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0005 s (1/2000)
ISO equiv: 100
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB

Metering only establishes exposure, and it is not a factor in depth of field. The other background blur factor is the distance to the background. A long distance, as in these examples, is useful.



  
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Sep 02, 2012 18:39 |  #5

If you want the person in your frame to be 100% in focus from head to toe the metering would not matter ?


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Sep 02, 2012 18:51 |  #6

mdaddyrabbit wrote in post #14939550 (external link)
If you want the person in your frame to be 100% in focus from head to toe the metering would not matter ?

No. Not unless it affected the aperture, which it won't in manual mode.




  
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Sep 02, 2012 18:54 |  #7

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No. Not unless it affected the aperture, which it won't in manual mode.

So, Mike can you give me a simple explanation of what & how to use the metering modes?


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Sep 02, 2012 19:01 |  #8

In an automatic mode, green box, P, Av, or Tv, the camera determines the "proper" exposure based on the meter reading. You can control how much of the scene is used to determine that exposure. Do you want the camera to evaluate the entire scene, just a small bit in the middle, or something in between? That's all metering mode is.

In those auto modes, the camera will always center the exposure needle, set the exposure, and take the shot. (Assuming you haven't dialed in any exposure compensation) In manual mode, you set the ISO, aperture, and shutter speed yourself, and you may or may not take the light meter's advice.

In manual mode, I usually use spot metering because I know what I'm pointing the camera at and have an idea how I want the exposure to go based off that. For example, if I'm shooting a fair skinned person in front of a grey sky, I can spot meter off their face and adjust the meter to read +1 because I know that's about right.

Evaluative metering takes into consideration the entire frame and tried it apply some artificial intelligence to determine the exposure. Honestly, the only time I use this is when I turn the mode dial to green box and hand the camera to someone. I find that its wrong more than its right and requires more work in Lightroom to fix.




  
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Sep 02, 2012 19:20 |  #9

Thanks Mike.


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Sep 02, 2012 21:00 |  #10

pick up a copy of "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson. I think they might even have a Kindle edition now.


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