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5D2 main camera, should I use a 5Dc or a 7D as my second camera?

 
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Sep 05, 2012 14:53 |  #1

I have been a 5D2 lover for a long time now. I am also amazed at the 7D autofocus system. The two main lenses that I use for events are the 24-70 and 70-200, with one on each camera. The problem comes about because I LOVE both of these lenses on the full frame, and dislike both ranges on the crop. When I shoot events, I shoot with two cameras and I am always frustrated which lens to put on the 7D, because I do not want to put any of them on the 7D. I want them both on the 5D2.

The easy solution would be 2x 5D2, however, that's a bit costly. I am considering to replace the 7D with a 5Dc.

The main usage of my 7D is to photograph my family, such as my 7 year old daughter running around, playing, kids doing stuff, etc. I will miss the 7D's autofocus for this. I have also used the pop up flash for my family stuff. I do not want a flash on my camera when I am out riding bicycle with my daughter. I will just pop up the flash and fire away. The 5D line doesnt have this option


So, what do you guys think? Dump the 7D and replace it with my full frame love, 5Dc? or keep the 7D - 5D2 combo?


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Sep 05, 2012 15:31 |  #2
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If you give up the 7D, you will lose quite a bit of focal length on you Sigma 150-500. I would stay with one FF and one APS-c.


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Sep 05, 2012 15:36 |  #3

There are two schools of thought. Having a FF and crop body expands your capacity by adding reach with the crop body and it allows you to select the best option for a given situation. I do this with events, wide lens on the 5D, longer lens on the 40D. Luckily the controls are close enough I can switch back and forth.

The second is have your backup as close to the same setup as your primary so the transition is seamless.

Given that I occasionally need the extra reach and focus improvement of the crop body I keep both.




  
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Sep 06, 2012 10:39 |  #4

If you want the fast focus ability to take pictures of kids playing, I'd stick with the 7D. Why bother with a 5DC when you already have the 5DII? It's just overkill.

I was in a similar situation, and I actually decided to get a smaller, more portable camera to use for my backup- a T1i. It's good enough for everything I need in a backup camera; if I'm taking serious pictures, I'll use my other one.


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Sep 06, 2012 11:20 |  #5

I was always a late adopter - bought a 5Dc just when the MkII was coming onto the market. Now I've done the same with a 5D II (plus a 24 1.4, so that's more than ok . . . ).

What to do with the 5Dc?

Keep it, of course. Why? Well, I'm knocked over by the ISO capabilities of the MkII; 1600 is stunning, as is 3200. 6400 is like 1600 on the oldie. And I've just been converted to video - this from a chiel who worked tv news for 20 years.

But . . . but . . . there's a 'quality' to the original's images.

Indefinable, and probably unscientific, but for portraits and landscapes, I see a definite difference between new and old. I prefer to 'look' of the old. Not that it stands up to examination at 100% crop.

Call me a fool (and I bet you will), but I will keep the 5Dc. It sits happily with my 20d and 1Dc.

However, in your particular circumstance, I'd go 7D. Never owned it but have handled one. The AF is rarely fooled - I could wander at will through the outer focus points - and I was severely impressed by the quality of the images.


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Sep 06, 2012 16:25 |  #6

TSchrief wrote in post #14951741 (external link)
If you give up the 7D, you will lose quite a bit of focal length on you Sigma 150-500.

I actually have had that lens about 2 years and only used it once, just to play with it.

I dont really do much wild life.

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There are two schools of thought. Having a FF and crop body expands your capacity by adding reach with the crop body and it allows you to select the best option for a given situation. I do this with events, wide lens on the 5D, longer lens on the 40D. Luckily the controls are close enough I can switch back and forth.

The second is have your backup as close to the same setup as your primary so the transition is seamless.

Given that I occasionally need the extra reach and focus improvement of the crop body I keep both.

The reason I have 2 cameras it not really a backup, more as to cover 2 focal ranges at the same time. I can pull up one camera to get a wide angle shot, or the next to get a tighter framing. I use the 70-200 essentially for portraits, and the 7D is not a killer portrait camera as much as the 5D2.

I photograph events, like parties, concerts, festivals, weddings, etc, and I dont really do sports.

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If you want the fast focus ability to take pictures of kids playing, I'd stick with the 7D. Why bother with a 5DC when you already have the 5DII? It's just overkill.

I was in a similar situation, and I actually decided to get a smaller, more portable camera to use for my backup- a T1i. It's good enough for everything I need in a backup camera; if I'm taking serious pictures, I'll use my other one.

Essentially, my 7D is my 'throw around' camera. I take it out to chase my daughter around. I dont want a killer lens on it, because, while I trust that the camera should be fine getting bumped, the lens might not fair so well, so I keep a 17-85mm IS on it. I sacrifice some IQ, but retain some cost and ability to not cry if it breaks. I know that I could get a 17-55 f/2.8 IS to fit the 7D, however I do not want that lens, when I already own the 24-70.

I would be happy if the 5D lineup had a popup flash. :( My memories dont care if a harsh shadow is in the background....


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Sep 06, 2012 16:36 |  #7

I use the 7D with my 100-400 lens and a medium zoom on my 5D3.


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Sep 06, 2012 16:40 |  #8

professorman wrote in post #14951600 (external link)
I have been a 5D2 lover for a long time now. I am also amazed at the 7D autofocus system. The two main lenses that I use for events are the 24-70 and 70-200, with one on each camera. The problem comes about because I LOVE both of these lenses on the full frame, and dislike both ranges on the crop. When I shoot events, I shoot with two cameras and I am always frustrated which lens to put on the 7D, because I do not want to put any of them on the 7D. I want them both on the 5D2.

The easy solution would be 2x 5D2, however, that's a bit costly. I am considering to replace the 7D with a 5Dc.

The main usage of my 7D is to photograph my family, such as my 7 year old daughter running around, playing, kids doing stuff, etc. I will miss the 7D's autofocus for this. I have also used the pop up flash for my family stuff. I do not want a flash on my camera when I am out riding bicycle with my daughter. I will just pop up the flash and fire away. The 5D line doesnt have this option

So, what do you guys think? Dump the 7D and replace it with my full frame love, 5Dc? or keep the 7D - 5D2 combo?

Consider swapping the 24-70 for a 17-55 for the 7D and gain IS a great combo and what I have.


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Sep 06, 2012 20:02 |  #9

Also considering the 7d uses the same batteries as the 5D2, it makes for less gadgets and battery types to be lugging around. I'd go with 7d, and yes I have owned both 5dc and 7d.


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Sep 06, 2012 21:22 |  #10

Ok let me ask this question for those of you answering. I don't see a lot of conversation about the IQ. I have the 7d and 5d. I want to upgrade to the 5&ii because the images that come out of the 5d are just unreal. Yeah the focus and build of the 7d is better than the 5dii but how do the images /files compare to the 5d? Put a good prime on the 5d and it's just magical. Does the 5dii give you that?


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Sep 06, 2012 21:47 |  #11

sheawyatt wrote in post #14957292 (external link)
Also considering the 7d uses the same batteries as the 5D2, it makes for less gadgets and battery types to be lugging around. I'd go with 7d, and yes I have owned both 5dc and 7d.

I did not know that. Excellent...thank you for pointing that out.

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Sep 06, 2012 21:56 |  #12

Invest in some new glasses then for the 7D.

70-200 on 5D
and 17-55 2.8 or 17-40 4L on 7D

or 70-200 on 7D and 24-70 on 5D

Second option sounds better though.




  
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Sep 07, 2012 04:37 |  #13

Just be aware that they rearranged the buttons on the top when they went from the 5D to the 5D Mk II, but the cameras are otherwise very similar. I don't think I'd be able to successfully alternate between the two.




  
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Sep 07, 2012 08:14 |  #14

NZed wrote in post #14957752 (external link)
Invest in some new glasses then for the 7D.

70-200 on 5D
and 17-55 2.8 or 17-40 4L on 7D

or 70-200 on 7D and 24-70 on 5D

Second option sounds better though.

I would advise your first option sounds best.

17-55 IS on the 7D is perfect and the 70-200 on the 5DII covers all the range you'll probably need. Plus you get the benefit this way round of slower shutter speed usefulness on the 7D.


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