The Death of Film

DavidR wrote in post #14956962
Was it a problem with Canon cameras? I never used a Canon film body, just Nikon and Minolta and that has never happened to me.

Anyway I'm done with film also.

I was using a Nikon film camera. I think in general it was more a problem with the photographer.

(Edit to add: I'm talking about MY mishaps with loading film, and blaming myself for it.)

I wish i had the $$$ back that i spent on testing and krappy prints that i could not use over 20 yr period.... I could pay for a 1Dx today and have change to spare

irishman wrote in post #14956190
It may, therefore, be surprising to hear me say that while film is not dead, I for one would not mourn its passing and would be the first to throw dirt on its casket.

So you actually want film to die? Why?

DavidR wrote in post #14956962
Was it a problem with Canon cameras? I never used a Canon film body, just Nikon and Minolta and that has never happened to me.

Not unique to any camera, just to sloppy procedure. It's easily avoided:

1) Feed leader into takeup spool
2) Turn knob holding film cassette to take up any excess film that was played out
3) Close camera
4) Advance film two frames, making sure that knob holding the film cassette turns as you advance.

Nearly a thousand rolls shot, never once had a roll not advance properly.

I have not had the experience of shooting film, aside from depressing the shutter button on my dad's camera a few times. I do intend to try it.

Some of you mentioned that film is still being used professionally. Is there a parallel in the video and/or audio industries? If so, to what extent has digital medium replaced them so far?

umphotography wrote in post #14956594
Ever drive to a local park and see the car show with all the old guys sitting around next to all the mustangs, camaros,roadrunners and 57 chevys.......just sayin

Unless I retire and build my own darkroom, I keep shooting digital by now

It's all relative and it depends on how you define "death" of film. What would MOST people use to define it? a 50 percent drop in usage over past 20 years? Maybe. a 75 percent drop in usage over past 20 years? Probably that would qualify as "death." Film certainly isn't going to get MORE popular in the future, but it will never be 100 per cent dead. Neither is the Model T Ford 100 per cent dead. To MY mind, that some of the National Geographic photographers are using it, and a small percentage of the commercial world as well, when you look at the photography world in its entirety (that includes consumers and pros alike), I think that film may not be completely dead, it never will be completely dead, but it is sucking its dying breaths for sure.

DavidR wrote in post #14956962
Was it a problem with Canon cameras? I never used a Canon film body, just Nikon and Minolta and that has never happened to me.

Anyway I'm done with film also.

I was taught to grab the rewind knob and give it a turn after loading the camera. If it didn't tighten up right away you misloaded the film.

Today, you can set your DSLR to shoot without the card and spend a whole day photographing........n​othing.

Love my digital darkroom.
Don't want to go back.
Love my digital camera.
Imo a technological advancement in everything that
Ansel Adams, Eliot Porter, Henri Cartier Bresson, etc. did.

sjones wrote in post #14956512
So you are against choice...brilliant.

groundloop wrote in post #14956993
I was using a Nikon film camera. I think in general it was more a problem with the photographer.

moose10101 wrote in post #14957050
So you actually want film to die? Why? Selfish b*****.

moose10101 wrote in post #14957126
Not unique to any camera, just to sloppy procedure. It's easily avoided:

1) Feed leader into takeup spool
2) Turn knob holding film cassette to take up any excess film that was played out
3) Close camera
4) Advance film two frames, making sure that knob holding the film cassette turns as you advance.

Nearly a thousand rolls shot, never once had a roll not advance properly.

Interesting---had no idea my opinion would lead to personal attacks!

irishman wrote in post #14957795
Interesting---had no idea my opinion would lead to personal attacks!

Please don't include me in that group, I've been standing with you in this thread. When I said that messing up loading film was a problem with the photographer and not the camera I was talking about ME, as I had mentioned in a previous post that I'd had the pleasure of shooting an entire roll of film only to find that it wasn't loaded properly.

I didn't realize that Barnes and Noble was not dead.

Having recently purchased a 617 I'm hoping that film is not dead.
Comparing what I can get on that camera to my 5D mkII with Zeiss lens the difference is staggering.

Film is not dead, it just smells funny.

Film may not be truly dead, but it is very depressing how many great emulsions have been discontinued by the manufacturers! EPN was considered to be the standard of faithful color rendition for textiles and fashion industries, which were notoriously pickly about accurate rendition. EPN had the most linear exposure vs. density curve on the market, which gave it the most accurate tonal rendition, but less midtone snap. EPN was considered by many as the most neutral of the slide films. Ektachrome 100 Professional Plus (EPP) had a noticeably snappier film with a more S-shaped characteristic curve, making it a common print ad emulsion for commercial photography. Alas, both are gone.

The suggested replacement for KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 100 Film / EPN is KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E100G. But now E100G is discontinued, too!