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Sep 08, 2012 19:22 |  #31

Tony_Stark wrote in post #14962822 (external link)
I have always wanted to own a Zeiss MF lens, but with the cost in relation to the AF Canon counter parts very hard to justify. Im not sure the IQ warrants twice the cost. In the end thats what you buy from the lens, IQ.

Zeiss is totally worth the IQ if you don't mind MF. If you really need AF the 135 L is the one to own. I'm planning to pick one of these up bcoz' I can justify the price. ;)




  
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Sep 08, 2012 19:25 |  #32

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It all comes down to what you shoot and what you find interesting. I recently purchased the Zeiss 50 MP and MFing is easier than I thought.

This is my first MF only lens and was able to capture this wide open @ f2. I literally took this within minutes with a MF lens ever.


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It wasn't hard at all even for portrait and focus confirm is accurate imo. Sure it really isn't meant for moving objects but for portrait session it's definitely doable.

I love the 50 MP and the 100 MP. Both are excellent lenses for just about everything including macro. :)




  
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Sep 08, 2012 19:29 |  #33

jdizzle wrote in post #14965417 (external link)
I'm planning to pick one of these up bcoz' I can justify the price. ;)

If I could justify the price of everything I wanted....well ...hahah! I'm a wealthy rich dude:)




  
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Sep 08, 2012 19:36 |  #34

tmwag wrote in post #14965438 (external link)
If I could justify the price of everything I wanted....well ...hahah! I'm a wealthy rich dude:)

Hehe! I'm about to order the Zeiss 15 ZF.2 and 25 f2 ZF.2. Although at this time, both B&H and Adorama have the 15 ZF out of stock. :)




  
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Sep 08, 2012 22:50 |  #35

Hogloff wrote in post #14963389 (external link)
Really. All other lenses they produce better the Canon equivalent in IQ. Why do you feel this one will not do the same?

Because the 135mm f2 is one of the 2 or 3 sharpest lenses Canon makes. It is also one of the very few Canon lenses that produces pictures that have a Zeiss look. The MTF chart would explain why. Zeiss lenses are very impressive, but if they produce a 135mm that simply matches the Canon, it will be a great lens. If it exceeds the IQ of the Canon, it may be one of the greatest lesnes ever made.




  
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Sep 09, 2012 00:05 |  #36

Do you, guys,think that you could consistently (time and time again) nailing focus with this Zeiss lens and 1Dx or 5D MKIII bodies in a situation where people move all the time, just like in this example:
http://www.dylikowski.​com …photography-and-emotions/ (external link)

There is not a single second that this lady stood still, yet....all shots had eyes perfectly in focus thanks to the phenomenal AF system.

You think you can do it with Zeiss MF?


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Sep 09, 2012 00:08 |  #37

Of course you can. It all depends on how far your ambitions go. For this specific photograph, the person was posing to you. You could take a tripod, use live view and definitely nail the focus.

You did not think about the composition here because you just put the person in the center of the frame. When you have an assignment where you need to do a professional job and you know that you do not have time to use love view, you need to rely on your eyes and be sure that you nail the focus all the time, you think you can still do it?

kin2son wrote in post #14965389 (external link)
It all comes down to what you shoot and what you find interesting. I recently purchased the Zeiss 50 MP and MFing is easier than I thought.

This is my first MF only lens and was able to capture this wide open @ f2. I literally took this within minutes with a MF lens ever.

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Zeiss 50 MP test shot 3 wide open (external link) by kin2son (external link), on Flickr

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Zeiss 50 MP 100% Crop (external link) by kin2son (external link), on Flickr

It wasn't hard at all even for portrait and focus confirm is accurate imo. Sure it really isn't meant for moving objects but for portrait session it's definitely doable.


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Sep 09, 2012 00:56 |  #38
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light_pilgrim wrote in post #14966340 (external link)
Of course you can. It all depends on how far your ambitions go. For this specific photograph, the person was posing to you. You could take a tripod, use live view and definitely nail the focus.

That's not the point. Zeiss is not meant for street photography (especially when your intended subject are people that won't stop for you).

It's all about using the right lens for the right job....No one claims that it's good for moving objects, BUT you can certainly nail focus in a controlled portrait session without the use of liveview.

It all comes down to what you are trying to achieve. some styles of photography MF actually makes it more engaging and works like a charm, while others require blistering fast and accurate AF (such as sports photography).

Btw, it was a test shot and I shot that handheld using the viewfinder and focus confirm beep only. It wasn't hard at all and it's accurate enough for me. Never feel the need to use liveview.


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Sep 09, 2012 01:00 |  #39

With this I agree...

kin2son wrote in post #14966450 (external link)
Zeiss is not meant for street photography (especially when your intended subject are people that won't stop for you).

You need to react immediately when you see something interesting....you do not have time for Live View:

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Sep 09, 2012 01:09 |  #40
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light_pilgrim wrote in post #14966455 (external link)
With this I agree...

You need to react immediately when you see something interesting....you do not have time for liveview

I agree 110%.

Look, you love your street photography, therefore you need a lens that AF, fair point. Whilst others use their Zeiss to shoot other things that don't move or moving predictably.

Different horses for different courses, that's all is it ;)


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Sep 09, 2012 01:28 |  #41

kin2son wrote in post #14966480 (external link)
I agree 110%.

Look, you love your street photography, therefore you need a lens that AF, fair point. Whilst others use their Zeiss to shoot other things that don't move or moving predictably.

Different horses for different courses, that's all is it ;)

Not only street photography I love. You can check the website:-)


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Sep 09, 2012 01:51 |  #42
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light_pilgrim wrote in post #14966532 (external link)
Not only street photography I love. You can check the website:-)

One word - PRO!!!

I think I should stop commenting as you definitely know what you are doing :oops:


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What? Street photography and MF lens.....??? Ever heard of Leica and Rangfinder??? It is called focus by scale. Sure, you can shoot street photography with a MF.


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Sep 09, 2012 09:23 |  #44

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What? Street photography and MF lens.....??? Ever heard of Leica and Rangfinder??? It is called focus by scale. Sure, you can shoot street photography with a MF.

But in this case not just the lens is MF, the camera itself is designed for MF....which is not the case with 1Dx and 5D MKIII. Are we talking about using this Zeiss lens on a range finder or 5D MKIII and the likes?


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light_pilgrim wrote in post #14967364 (external link)
But in this case not just the lens is MF, the camera itself is designed for MF....which is not the case with 1Dx and 5D MKIII. Are we talking about using this Zeiss lens on a range finder or 5D MKIII and the likes?

I use Zeiss glass on a 5d2 all the time. What's the issue?




  
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