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Sep 09, 2012 07:51 |  #1

So far I am loving my Canon 60D with the kit 18-135 glass.

I also have a 70-300 Canon glass from my old Elan II days.

I have been debating either the Canon 50 1.4 or the Canon 28 1.8- budget hopefully less than $500.

We are going to Europe in 2013 and there will be a large need for glass that can excel in indoor shots w/o flash.

I have heard so many good things about the 50 1.4, however I am fearful that this lens is "too long" for shots inside churches/museums. I also take a lot of landscape photography (my first love) and a high % of my pictures are taken under 50mm focal length with my 18-135 kit lens.

I can't find too many people raving about the Canon 28mm 1.8- many talk about "soft" shots. That glass should provide enough speed for low light shots as well as a wider width. Non of my photography mentor friends have ever owned this 28mm 1.8 lens. They all own either the 50 1.8 or 1.4.

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Sep 09, 2012 08:07 |  #2

Sigma 30 1.4. Sharper and faster than the 28 1.8, not as long as the 50 1.4.


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Sep 09, 2012 08:25 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #3

Youll find the 50mm abit on the long end for those type shots, i understand the 30mm sigma is brilliant and the canon 28mm or 35mm f/2 will get you those shots


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Sep 09, 2012 11:34 |  #4

consider an UWA.

These were taken on a cruise ship and deep in an underground cave with a canon 10-22 and a 60D, f4ish ISO3200 and hand holding at 1/30 or even 1/20. i don't have the steadiest hands but almost every interior shot took came out without shake. you can bet your lighting will probably be better than in the cave.

at 10mm you can get away with slower shutter and hand holding, plus you get an enormous FOV. btw, no noise reduction done yet.

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Sep 09, 2012 12:01 as a reply to  @ mike_311's post |  #5

I agree with mike_311 for a trip to Europe, I'd want to use your current lineup and get an UWA zoom.

If you are set on a prime, the 28mm is nice. Though many who have had both (I've only had the Canon) do seem to like the Sigma 30mm better (when they get a good copy). If you have no need of a FF lens, the 30mm would be a good choice for a prime.


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Sep 09, 2012 12:22 |  #6

50mm lens is a nice "portrait tele" on your 60D. It's not an indoor architecture lens. The 28/1.8 is a "normal", but also not really in indoor architecture lens. I have and use both the 50/1.4 and the 28/1.8... They are very good lenses... But neither is what I'd be likely to pull out of my camera bag for the purposes you describe.

So, I agree, get an ultrawide.... which for a crop camera largely means get an UWA zoom (there are few primes that are very wide on a crop camera). On a trip, it's generally best to take minimal gear that offers maximum versatility and that often means a zoom.The best low light/available light choice is probably the Tokina 11-16/2.8. However, note the very limited range of focal lengths. It's also a bit more prone to flare than some of the other UWA zooms. These are trade-offs to get f2.8, and frankly I think you might be surprised how seldom you actually need f2.8.

The Canon 10-22 is great in most respects, high IQ and unusually flare resistant... but also one of the most expensive and doesn't feel as sturdy as some of the third party lenses (it's more plasticky... though I have to note this doesn't mean it's actually any less durable... just that it doesn't inspire as much confidence). It's also a variable aperture lens and not particularlly fast (f3.5-5.6).

But, again... f2.8 actually is pretty rarely needed with an UWA... you'll find an UWA handholdable at much lower shutter speeds than usual and often will end up stopping down for sufficient depth of field anyway.

There are also the Sigma 10-20, two versions.... A more affordable one with a variable aperture and a more expensive one with f3.5. And Sigma offers the widest lens available other than a fisheye: 8-16mm. Tamron offers a 10-24mm that has the widest range of focal lengths in a single UWA zoom. I found the Tammy and an earlier version of the cheaper Siggy 10-20 to offer a bit lower IQ overall than the Canon and Tokinas. I haven't compared the others. I do note that the Siggy 8-16mm has a lot of inherent wide angle distortion, not suprising on such a wide lens.

If you are into landscape shooting, you'll probably learn to love any UWA zoom you get for that, too.


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Sep 09, 2012 12:42 |  #7

For church shots (no fast moving objects), having an IS f2.8 zoom lens will be more beneficial than f1.4 prime lens IMHO. (f1.4 gives you 2 more stops, whereas good IS can give you 4 stops). Also, you get the flexibility of the zoom. I had very decent results with my Sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS inside very dimly lit Canada Parliament in Ottawa, around ISO 800. It probably can be found at <600$ second-hand.

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Sep 09, 2012 15:52 as a reply to  @ pulsar123's post |  #8

I'm also going to agree on a wide or ultra-wide for the interior shots. Not only is a fast 50mm going to be too long, but using wide apertures will limit your DOF. A Tokina 11-16/Canon 10-22 would be great, but you might have to buy used to meet your budget.

Another consideration is the EF-S 15-85 IS. It's a fantastic lens for trips, and although not quite as wide as a true UWA, 15mm is still appreciably wider than 18. You also get excellent 4-stop IS, that the dedicated UWA's don't have. Again, this is not a cheap lens, and buying used might be prudent.


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