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Sep 11, 2012 20:32 |  #1

Totally irrelevant, but curious. There are models considered to be in the "prosumer" range, like the 60D, 7D.

For marketing purposes or otherwise, who is considered a "prosumer"? People that make money off of photography but don't consider it a full-time job? Or people that have more advanced photographic skills than an amateur, but less so than a full-time pro?




  
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Sep 11, 2012 20:35 |  #2

Everything under the 1 Series for bodies and non-L for lenses. Canon doesn't care in what capacity you use it or if you know how.


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Sep 11, 2012 20:36 |  #3

cdifoto wrote in post #14978967 (external link)
Everything under the 1 Series for bodies and non-L for lenses.

I thought Prosumer fell to the 7D / 5D / 60D series

And Consumer fell to the Rebel/ XXXD series - and these titles were based primarily on the COST of the camera body itself. A "Consumer" body, is more widely affordable than a "Prosumer" body.

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For marketing purposes or otherwise, who is considered a "prosumer"? People that make money off of photography but don't consider it a full-time job? Or people that have more advanced photographic skills than an amateur, but less so than a full-time pro?

I dont think those titles actually apply to people. There are the personally given titles like "Newbie/Beginner, Amateur, Advanced Amateur, Professional/Working Professional (making money - main job)" - etc. You call yourself what you believe you are, but it is your work that stands for itself, not the title.


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Sep 11, 2012 20:38 |  #4

Christina.DazzleByDesi​gn wrote in post #14978971 (external link)
I thought Prosumer fell to the 7D / 5D / 60D series

And Consumer fell to the Rebel/ XXXD series

I think they call the Rebels entry level. I'm not sure though. I forgot about them.


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Sep 11, 2012 20:38 as a reply to  @ cdifoto's post |  #5

The 5D series is a pro series. It's a little hard to put the 7D out of the prosumer series because it's a 1.6 crop and hard to understand the appeal over a 1D. However, lots of "pros" use them for sports shooting due to weight or pixel density.


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Sep 11, 2012 20:40 |  #6

cdifoto wrote in post #14978980 (external link)
I think they call the Rebels entry level. I'm not sure though. I forgot about them.

entry level / consumer, same thing :) yeah


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Sep 11, 2012 20:40 |  #7

I don't think I've ever seen the term used in any official materials from Canon.

People that make money off of photography but don't consider it a full-time job? Or people that have more advanced photographic skills than an amateur, but less so than a full-time pro?

How would this distinction make any difference to the marketing of the cameras?


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Sep 11, 2012 20:54 |  #8

cdifoto wrote in post #14978967 (external link)
Everything under the 1 Series for bodies and non-L for lenses. Canon doesn't care in what capacity you use it or if you know how.

This has often been quoted as the official standard but I am not so sure that Canon's marketing department sees it that way.

Go to the Canon website, select "Professional Imaging Products" from the menu bar across the top of the page and then click through to EOS cameras. The page lists all of the non-Rebel cameras.

Go to the CPS page and look over the list of qualifying products and again it's all non-Rebel bodies.


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Sep 11, 2012 20:59 |  #9

krb wrote in post #14979058 (external link)
This has often been quoted as the official standard but I am not so sure that Canon's marketing department sees it that way.

Go to the Canon website, select "Professional Imaging Products" from the menu bar across the top of the page and then click through to EOS cameras. The page lists all of the non-Rebel cameras.

Go to the CPS page and look over the list of qualifying products and again it's all non-Rebel bodies.

They've been flexible with respect to CPS because a lot of people bitched, but they definitely don't consider them professional the way the 1 series is considered professional.

Then again, they may not call anything prosumer anymore just to stop people's whining. Some (a lot of?) folks took it as a derogatory term.


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Sep 11, 2012 21:01 |  #10

cdifoto wrote in post #14979075 (external link)
Then again, they may not call anything prosumer anymore just to stop people's whining. Some (a lot of?) folks took it as a derogatory term.

That's what it looks like to me. If a pro shooter wants to buy a body Canon doesn't want to tell them "no."


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Sep 11, 2012 21:39 |  #11

"Prosumer" is a photo/video media term created by reviewers. I don't know if any manufacturer uses the term.

I always understood it to mean a consumer who wants/needs some professional capabilities / features in their equipment but can't/won't pay for fully professional equipment.


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Sep 11, 2012 21:43 |  #12

krb wrote in post #14979058 (external link)
This has often been quoted as the official standard but I am not so sure that Canon's marketing department sees it that way.

Go to the Canon website, select "Professional Imaging Products" from the menu bar across the top of the page and then click through to EOS cameras. The page lists all of the non-Rebel cameras....

Yes, but go to the same website and select "Consumer and Home Office" and it lists ALL of the EOS cameras. So, I guess that means the 1DX is a consumer camera? ;)


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Sep 11, 2012 23:01 as a reply to  @ RTPVid's post |  #13

According to Wikipedia ...
Rebels (xxxxD and xxxD bodies) are classed as entry level / consumer
xxD (40D, 50D, 60D bodies) are advanced amateur / mid range
xD (7D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII bodies) are prosumer / high-end
xD (1 series bodies) are professional / flagship

So to answer the OP's question ... 7D, 5D, 5DII, and 5DIII are the prosumer cameras.


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Sep 11, 2012 23:06 as a reply to  @ Perfect_10's post |  #14

technically they are all "consumer" products as they are not sold specifically to "pro" shooters.

anyone can drop the cash and get one. that makes them all consumer.



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Sep 11, 2012 23:10 |  #15

Perfect_10 wrote in post #14979664 (external link)
According to Wikipedia ...
Rebels (xxxxD and xxxD bodies) are classed as entry level / consumer
xxD (40D, 50D, 60D bodies) are advanced amateur / mid range
xD (7D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII bodies) are prosumer / high-end
xD (1 series bodies) are professional / flagship

So to answer the OP's question ... 7D, 5D, 5DII, and 5DIII are the prosumer cameras.

The OP didn't ask which cameras are prosumer, he asked who Canon considers to be the market for these cameras.

Besides, my earlier comments about this being quoted as an official standard applies to the wiki article at least as much as it does to comments on this forum. Hell, the wiki article was probably written by people who are members of this forum.


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