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Dec 24, 2005 14:37 |  #1

Merry Christmas everyone :D

I'll be flying over to NYC next year.

I had great success in shooting in daylight on my last trip.

With my new 350D I'd like to tackle some Cityscape and closer up nightshots.

I'd really like to get away with trawling a tripod around with me everywhere, everyday as knowing me spontaneous shots will be a plenty.

The fastest lens I'll have will be the EF 50mm 1.8 II (on order so haven't tested)

I know this lens copes well in low light but would it cope with nightshots eg Brooklyn Bridge at night ?

Would an IS lens cope with handheld nightshots ?

Excuse my lack of knowledge as I'm new to the DSLR scene and learning loads from this forum daily.

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Dec 24, 2005 14:43 |  #2

You can certainly get handheld shots at night put they'l probably be a pile of c**p.

Do yourself a favour and smuggle along the smallish tripod.

You'll be kicking yourself afterwards if not

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Dec 24, 2005 14:48 |  #3

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Would an IS lens cope with handheld nightshots ?

Yes, but you'd still be at a high ISO.

With a tripod, and some are fairly small enough to travel around with, you can put it on a lower ISO and still get clean shots that you can blow up without a problem of picking up all the noise.


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Dec 24, 2005 15:00 as a reply to  @ grego's post |  #4

Thanks for that Guys

I have a tripod, not overly expensive, not overly compact.

Can anyone suggest a smallish tripod that would suffice.

Other than one of those contraptions that are about the size of beer cans ;)


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Dec 24, 2005 15:28 |  #5

Those the size of beer cans may suffice. I have a small Cullmann tabletop thing that supports a 10D/20D/5D body plus a prime or zoom not more than 10cm long, approximately. Weight wise it might support a bit more, but with longer lens it falls over because of shortish legs. I hold it's leg usually while shooting, to be sure.

Usually it is possible to find some flat place to set this thing up. If nothing else, then to the ground :D like the attached shoot I took in Budapest from the ground of the quay with 10D and 18-50@50mm:

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You might also consider small beanbag.

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Dec 24, 2005 17:13 |  #6

Yes, you can do handheld, and yes they will either be at a high ISO or a small DoF. However, I don't think they'll look like crap.

Handheld, ISO 3200:

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I printed these at 8x10 and they look excellent. Sure, they're noisy, but you can't tell until you hold them up to your face.


But I have to agree that a tripod will do wonders for the shots, especially if you want to take long exposures. A table-top model is great for it's size, but limiting in where you can set it up - you generally will need to put it on something like a car hood or roof. A tiny, light tripod would be ideal. Check B&H's Compact Tripods section: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …Crumb&A=search&​Q=&ci=5711 (external link)

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Dec 25, 2005 01:12 |  #7

I have a mini tripod too and it works pretty good. But, you can use something as simple as a bean bag too. Put it under the body and lens or just the lens on a table or wide railing/ledge etc... It works great in a pinch!

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Dec 25, 2005 06:35 as a reply to  @ Jon Foster's post |  #8

With the 50mm F1.8 you have very shallow DOF at F1.8 - not ideal for cityscapes... I second the mini tripod suggestion...


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Dec 25, 2005 06:47 as a reply to  @ grego's post |  #9

grego wrote:
Yes, but you'd still be at a high ISO.

With a tripod, and some are fairly small enough to travel around with, you can put it on a lower ISO and still get clean shots that you can blow up without a problem of picking up all the noise.

How well does the in-camera noise reduction work? On that note why not just leave it on for sports / action shots at 800 or higher ISO?


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Dec 25, 2005 17:33 as a reply to  @ tdaugharty's post |  #10

tdaugharty wrote:
How well does the in-camera noise reduction work? On that note why not just leave it on for sports / action shots at 800 or higher ISO?

Because it only kicks in on exposures over 1 second (I think it is one second)
Hence the name ' Long Exposure Noise Reduction'

It cannot cancel out ISO noise, just noise that comes through with long exposures


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