TO 7D OR NOT TO 7D MAYBE 5DMK2

Hello all
I am returning to photography (5 yrs out)and after some research have chosen 2 bodies they are the 7d and the 5d mk 2 the lens will be a tamron 17mm to 50mm and they will be used mostly for landscapes,portraits and wildlife which Norfolk has a lot of.
Other lenses added later,So what 1 do i choose as i will be selling prints upto A3 size so need to make the right decision,how good is the 7d at landscapes i hear rumours it is not great at low light.
Any help would be greatly received.....

Best advice is to rent both and try them out if you can. That way you have "feel" for it, people will just give you biased opinions.

Here you can see what the 7 is capable of in terms of landscape:
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1197369

Deetrini gave you a good advice: try them out first and make your own decision.

It all depends what you are shooting...but as Deetrini said it all comes down to personal preference basically.
I currently use the 5D2 and it is absolutely stunning, sure the auto focus does miss sometimes(not that often to make it a big issue though), but with each camera there is bound to be a few drawbacks.

If you are able to rent them both then by all means do that, but if you cannot rent(like me) then it isn't too much of an issue anyway as they are both stunning cameras, however the 7D tends to lean more towards video and fast moving subjects.

If you plan to only shoot landscapes and basically nothing else, the 5DII has an advantage over the 7D since it has slightly higher sensor resolution and somewhat better (about one stop) high-ISO image quality. For portraits, other than the 5DII's full frame advantage of allowing narrower depth of field (which may or may not be important to you), I'd say the two come very close. For wildlife, the 7D wins, as it has both the high-density sensor crop "reach" advantage in focal length-limited shooting situations and significantly better autofocus for shooting moving subjects.

Nikon D600, is a good alternative that has a good combination of features

The Tamron 17-50 lens you mention is for crop bodies only, and will not work on the 5D2. I would suggest deciding on the body first, and then pick which lens you will buy for a standard walk around. The choice will be much different depending on whether you end up with a 7D (crop body) and 5D2 (full frame).

stsva wrote in post #14989659
If you plan to only shoot landscapes and basically nothing else, the 5DII has an advantage over the 7D since it has slightly higher sensor resolution

Er, nope. It has a larger sensor but with fewer pixels (hence a lower resolution).

Not quite sure how low of light your speaking about using it in but I've haven't had any issue using mine in low light with f/4 lens. Total darkness might present a problem but I'd tend to think that could be with a lot of cameras too.

IMO it holds its own against the 5D Mark II in landscape work and notice I didn't say better; 5Dii -vs- 7D for landscaping?

hollis_f wrote in post #14989696
Er, nope. It has a larger sensor but with fewer pixels (hence a lower resolution).

Good point. There goes the 5DII advantage for landscapes.

Tsmith wrote in post #14989720
Not quite sure how low of light your speaking about using it in but I've haven't had any issue using mine in low light with f/4 lens. Total darkness might present a problem but I'd tend to think that could be with a lot of cameras too.

IMO it holds its own against the 5D Mark II in landscape work and notice I didn't say better; 5Dii -vs- 7D for landscaping?

Hmm. The 5D mk2 is rather obviously sharper in that thread, though I don't think you'd notice if they weren't side by side. But it's clear this is comparing two very similar cameras in capabilities, the 5D is only very slightly better. I do a lot of landscape and I decided it wasn't worth the money for the slight extra quality you get by going to 5D mk2. Especially if you consider the loss in frame rate and focus ability. Landscape might be what I enjoy most, but is not the only thing I do. Also, the smaller DOF of full frame is a disadvantage for landscape.

stsva wrote in post #14989659
If you plan to only shoot landscapes and basically nothing else, the 5DII has an advantage over the 7D since it has slightly higher sensor resolution

hollis_f wrote in post #14989696
Er, nope. It has a larger sensor but with fewer pixels (hence a lower resolution).

Hmm, are you sure?

AFAIK:
7D: 5,184 × 3,456 (17.9 megapixels)
5DII: 5,616 × 3,744 (21.1 megapixels)

The 5DII has more pixels. The 7D has higher pixel density, though.

For landscapes, where the "target frame" is big and wide, the two cameras will be trying to capture the same field of view, so sensor size will be adjusted for by using the appropriate focal length. So the 5DII will do a better job with more pixels.

shinksma

One thing to consider is the glass, with the 7D you'll be wanting the 10-22mm and perhaps the 17-55mm for landscape work. With a 5D mk2 you'll have the sensor size necessary to make use of the L series wide angle lens. Though they are not necessarily optically better than the best EF-S lenses.
Another thing is tilt shift lenses, 7D greatly restricts their angle of view.
Though your Tamron 17mm to 50mm has a good focal length for most landscape work on the 7D.

Higher Pixel Density = Higher Noise.

RoadPhotog wrote in post #14991007
Higher Pixel Density = Higher Noise.

Tell that to the D800.