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Aug 01, 2013 21:07 |  #616

kiss-o-matic wrote in post #16165111 (external link)
Is the Yashica different from the Zeiss...


I have used Yashica 28 f/2.8, 50 f/2, 50 f/1.7 and CY Zeiss 28 f/2.8, 50 f/1.4. Started with a Zeiss 50 and Yashica 28. Wasnt happy with the 28 and got the Zeiss. Got the Yashica 50s mostly to compare with the Zeiss. kept zeiss 28 and 50 and yashica f/2

price of yashica is good value compared to zeiss, all three were cheaper than either Zeiss. with the higher price you get noticeably better build quality with more metal and much smoother focus throw. i could tell the difference without zooming to 100%, and fairly obvious if peeping at them pixels. Still could tell stopped down to f/8 but less of a difference, zeiss just a little sharper and slightly better colors.

I guess what it comes down to is that if i didnt have the zeiss to compare with, I would have been happy with the yashicas. So yes, there is a difference.


(i do realize that without any photos, its just a whole bunch of words from a random guy on the internet. If I run into the dvd with those images and I remember, I will post some supporting pics)


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Aug 01, 2013 21:10 |  #617

Hey guys, I've been a lurker and thanks to this thread I decided to try my hand at getting some vintage lenses, with special mention going to EverydayGetaway.

Thing is, I went a bit hog wild and admittedly do not even know for sure what adapters to get. I have done a bit of research but still wish to ask for help since you guys may know little things to keep in mind, like preferred brand. I shoot video and think it would be best to get an adapter per lens. I have a 6D coming in, 5D3 and 60D.

From what I understand, some lenses may touch the mirror of some cameras? Is this just an issue where the lenses may only work full frame or crop or could there be actual damage?

I'm going to list the lenses...what I'd like to know is what adapter to get and if the lenses are full frame and crop sensor compatible. Or do I need different adapters for full frame and crop?


1. Kiron 70-210mm macro zoom lens
Full and crop sensor compatible?
Mount:

2. Vivitar Auto Telephoto 200mm 1:3.5 M42 mount
Full and crop?
Mount: http://www.amazon.com …8-7&keywords=m42+to+cano​n (external link)

3. YASHICA ML 50mm f/1.7
Yashica ML 50mm f1.7 C/Y Mount
Yashica ML 28mm f2.8 WIDE Angle 28/2.8 C/Y Mount

Full and crop?
Mount: http://www.amazon.com …keywords=yashic​a+to+canon (external link) Three of these?

4. Nikon Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 Ai Lens and
Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/2 Ai Lens
Full and crop?
Mount: Found this but seems to be problematic: http://www.amazon.com …s=nikkor+to+can​on+adapter (external link)

5. PENTAX 135mm F3.5 Super Takumar M42 Screw Mount
Full and crop?
Mount: http://www.amazon.com …8-7&keywords=m42+to+cano​n (external link)


6. Sears 135 mm F 1:2.8 MC Lens PK- Pentax Mount
Full and crop?
http://www.amazon.com …s=pentax+to+can​on+adapter (external link)

Seems to be iffy connection.

If anyone would be so kind to help me out here I would appreciate it.




  
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Aug 01, 2013 21:18 |  #618

KhaledA wrote in post #16172996 (external link)
Great, thanks :) will look into it.
What filter thread is it?

All of my Yashica lenses so far are 52mm threaded, which is very convenient :cool

thundermonkey wrote in post #16174154 (external link)
Hey guys, I've been a lurker and thanks to this thread I decided to try my hand at getting some vintage lenses, with special mention going to EverydayGetaway.

Thing is, I went a bit hog wild and admittedly do not even know for sure what adapters to get. I have done a bit of research but still wish to ask for help since you guys may know little things to keep in mind, like preferred brand. I shoot video and think it would be best to get an adapter per lens. I have a 6D coming in, 5D3 and 60D.

From what I understand, some lenses may touch the mirror of some cameras? Is this just an issue where the lenses may only work full frame or crop or could there be actual damage?

I'm going to list the lenses...what I'd like to know is what adapter to get and if the lenses are full frame and crop sensor compatible. Or do I need different adapters for full frame and crop?


1. Kiron 70-210mm macro zoom lens
Full and crop sensor compatible?
Mount:

2. Vivitar Auto Telephoto 200mm 1:3.5 M42 mount
Full and crop?
Mount: http://www.amazon.com …8-7&keywords=m42+to+cano​n (external link)

3. YASHICA ML 50mm f/1.7
Yashica ML 50mm f1.7 C/Y Mount
Yashica ML 28mm f2.8 WIDE Angle 28/2.8 C/Y Mount

Full and crop?
Mount: http://www.amazon.com …keywords=yashic​a+to+canon (external link) Three of these?

4. Nikon Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 Ai Lens and
Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/2 Ai Lens
Full and crop?
Mount: Found this but seems to be problematic: http://www.amazon.com …s=nikkor+to+can​on+adapter (external link)

5. PENTAX 135mm F3.5 Super Takumar M42 Screw Mount
Full and crop?
Mount: http://www.amazon.com …8-7&keywords=m42+to+cano​n (external link)


6. Sears 135 mm F 1:2.8 MC Lens PK- Pentax Mount
Full and crop?
http://www.amazon.com …s=pentax+to+can​on+adapter (external link)

Seems to be iffy connection.

If anyone would be so kind to help me out here I would appreciate it.

Thanks for the honorable mention :)

I can't say for some of these lenses, but I'd assume that if the Yashica's work on my full frame 6D without a problem then they should work fine on a crop body. My Sears 135 also has no issues with the mirror, I did break the auto lever off of the back though on my copy, I also want to warn you that it has strong purple fringing at 2.8 which might not work well for video, it's still sharp at 2.8, but it definitely fringes a lot which is fine for stills thanks to LR, but idk about video. The same can be said for the Vivitar 200mm 3.5, though honestly now that I have a Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (v3, kimone) I'm probably going to sell my 200/3.5, it's simply not as nice of a lens.


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Aug 01, 2013 21:18 |  #619

Also, how can I identify lens caps needed for Vivitar Auto Telephoto 200mm 1:3.5 M42?




  
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Aug 01, 2013 21:18 |  #620

thundermonkey wrote in post #16174167 (external link)
Also, how can I identify lens caps needed for Vivitar Auto Telephoto 200mm 1:3.5 M42?

It uses a 62mm thread.


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Aug 01, 2013 21:25 |  #621

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16174166 (external link)
All of my Yashica lenses so far are 52mm threaded, which is very convenient :cool

Thanks for the honorable mention :)

I can't say for some of these lenses, but I'd assume that if the Yashica's work on my full frame 6D without a problem then they should work fine on a crop body. My Sears 135 also has no issues with the mirror, I did break the auto lever off of the back though on my copy, I also want to warn you that it has strong purple fringing at 2.8 which might not work well for video, it's still sharp at 2.8, but it definitely fringes a lot which is fine for stills thanks to LR, but idk about video. The same can be said for the Vivitar 200mm 3.5, though honestly now that I have a Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (v3, kimone) I'm probably going to sell my 200/3.5, it's simply not as nice of a lens.

So fringing on the Vivitar and Sears at 2.8 if I read that right? The 200mm cost only 20 and apparently has some dust on the inside, so I don't expect a pure image out of it but for the price won't mind. As I said, for video, imperfections may find their use.

Might be useful for some creative stuff in video, who knows. What do you mean by the auto leveler??

Sorry, no idea what v3, kimone is. Admittedly, I just look at what people seem to like and look for footage/stills taken with it.

Would really like to get some help on these adapters, would like to order them ASAP, but need to be certain what the right ones are, then brand, etc. Fun times!

Will continue reading your sig for ideas on future purchases :lol:




  
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Aug 01, 2013 21:31 |  #622

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16174168 (external link)
It uses a 62mm thread.

Silly question, but would ANY 62mm front cap work? Only ever dealt with Canon stuff, which is interchangeable, but want to be certain for this stuff.

Would the back cap be any generic back cap as well?

Assuming these would work?
http://www.amazon.com …eywords=m42+rea​r+cap+62mm (external link)

Appreciate the help!




  
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Aug 01, 2013 21:37 |  #623

thundermonkey wrote in post #16174187 (external link)
So fringing on the Vivitar and Sears at 2.8 if I read that right? The 200mm cost only 20 and apparently has some dust on the inside, so I don't expect a pure image out of it but for the price won't mind. As I said, for video, imperfections may find their use.

Might be useful for some creative stuff in video, who knows. What do you mean by the auto leveler??

Sorry, no idea what v3, kimone is. Admittedly, I just look at what people seem to like and look for footage/stills taken with it.

Would really like to get some help on these adapters, would like to order them ASAP, but need to be certain what the right ones are, then brand, etc. Fun times!

Will continue reading your sig for ideas on future purchases :lol:

Haha, sounds good! Check out my Flickr for ideas, the vast majority of what's on there was shot with vintage glass ;) If you have a question about what lens was used for which shot feel free to ask me right there on the picture.

The 200mm Vivitar doesn't CA or fringe nearly as much as my Sears 135mm, but it definitely still does a bit wide open, once either one is stopped down to f/4 it's pretty much gone though. As for the dust on the inside, I'd be seriously surprised if any sign of it would show up in shots, I have a Yashica 50/1.7 that has serious dust and possibly fungus on the inside of it and yet it has zero effect on image quality :)

The v3 Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm is variable aperture from 2.8-4 and it can do 1:2.5 macro, which is pretty handy, it was made by Kimone and branded by Vivitar, there are several versions of this lens all made by different manufactures, the Kimone is generally believed to be the best one from what I read. I shot a wedding with it last Saturday and was really impressed (which was a good thing, because I was fretting over it the whole day... I went into it anticipating being able to borrow my father's 70-200/2.8ii, but he needed it for a shoot himself, so I bought the Vivitar last minute), shots from it were pretty much indistinguishable from those from my dad's 24-70mk1 that he let me borrow!

The Auto lever is a little switch on the back to operate the auto aperture mode when used on a film SLR, this obviously doesn't work on a DSLR and the protrusion can hit the mirror, so I just used a pair of pliers to snap it off (it's pretty common on vintage glass and they're usually very easy to break off, it won't affect it's use on a DSLR ;))

As for the caps, any 62mm cap will work, I get mine for $5 on Amazon. The rear caps, as long as you have the adapter for EOS will fit normal EF rear caps, though sometimes they can fit a little loose. I find the Fotodiox rear caps fit more snuggly on adapters (and their adapters are very good as well).


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Aug 02, 2013 13:32 |  #624

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16143984 (external link)
Does anyone here have any experience with the Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm 2.8-4 (Komine) lens? I'm looking for a cheap but decent telephoto zoom to hold me over for a while until I can afford a proper 70-200/2.8, this one looks like it'd be decent enough from everything I've read, but I was hoping for real world Canon user's opinions.

Thanks!

I just picked up the Komine version your interested in...as you may have seen, I've had the Kino-Kiron version for a month now, and I'm going to take the Komine out next week and see how it compares....keep in mind that the Kino version sells for less than $25 (in Nikon mounts) while the Komine versions sells for $75+....

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The Komine version is more compact though, if that is a concern....

My Canon kit 450D/s90; Canon lenses 18-55 IS, 70-210/3.5-4.5....Nikon kit: D610; 28-105/3.5-4.5, 75-300/4.5-5.6 AF, 50/1.8D Nikkors, Tamron 80-210; MF Nikkors: 50/2K, 50/1.4 AI-S, 50/1.8 SeriesE, 60/2.8 Micro Nikkor (AF locked), 85mm/1.8K-AI, 105/2.5 AIS/P.C, 135/2.8K/Q.C, 180/2.8 ED, 200/4Q/AIS, 300/4.5H-AI, ++ Tamron 70-210/3.8-4, Vivitar/Kiron 28/2, ser.1 70-210/3.5, ser.1 28-90; Vivitar/Komine and Samyang 28/2.8; 35mm Nikon F/FM/FE2, Rebel 2K...HTC RE UWA camera

  
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Aug 02, 2013 13:47 |  #625

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I just picked up the Komine version your interested in...as you may have seen, I've had the Kino-Kiron version for a month now, and I'm going to take the Komine out next week and see how it compares....keep in mind that the Kino version sells for less than $25 (in Nikon mounts) while the Komine versions sells for $75+....

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The Komine version is more compact though it that is a concern....

I actually pulled the trigger on one last week myself for $75 ;)

I used it to shoot a wedding last Saturday, foolish I know, but I had no choice, I had originally thought my dad could loan me his 70-200/2.8iiL, but he needed it that day for a studio shoot, but to my relief it produced excellent results! I was only paid $250 for the wedding and the bride and groom knew it was my first (I told them to give me a price they thought was fair and I did it for that) so I was willing to give it a shot with the 70-210 since my only other lenses that come close to it are my Sears 135, which CA's pretty bad wide open, and my 200/3.5 Vivitar which is fairly soft wide open.

I shot side by side with the Series 1 70-210 and my dad's 24-70L mk1 and can honestly barely see a difference between shots from each lens, in fact when processing on my computer I thought several shots must have come from the L, but to my surprise were actually from the Vivitar!

I've only shot with it once so far, but I definitely recommend it based on my so far limited experience with it. Focus operation is smooth and very well dampened, very easy to focus. The push pull zoom is also very smooth and well dampened, it was a pleasure to shoot with.


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Aug 02, 2013 14:14 |  #626

That's great EG...both the lens and the shoot....congrats....a​nd good shooting!


My Canon kit 450D/s90; Canon lenses 18-55 IS, 70-210/3.5-4.5....Nikon kit: D610; 28-105/3.5-4.5, 75-300/4.5-5.6 AF, 50/1.8D Nikkors, Tamron 80-210; MF Nikkors: 50/2K, 50/1.4 AI-S, 50/1.8 SeriesE, 60/2.8 Micro Nikkor (AF locked), 85mm/1.8K-AI, 105/2.5 AIS/P.C, 135/2.8K/Q.C, 180/2.8 ED, 200/4Q/AIS, 300/4.5H-AI, ++ Tamron 70-210/3.8-4, Vivitar/Kiron 28/2, ser.1 70-210/3.5, ser.1 28-90; Vivitar/Komine and Samyang 28/2.8; 35mm Nikon F/FM/FE2, Rebel 2K...HTC RE UWA camera

  
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Aug 02, 2013 15:23 |  #627

I have been toying withe idea of some manual lenses and decided to give it a shot. I just picked up a used Nikon AI-D 50mm f/1.4, and a Sigma AI-S 28-105mm f/4-5.6 zoom. Both are in good condition with nice clean glass, $75+tax for the pair at the local camera shop used department.

Just ordered adapters from Amazon so I can use them with my 6D and EOS-M when it arrives next week. Can't wait, I really like the compact size of the Sigma, I think it will pair much better with the EOS-M then my 24-105mm F4L.

Two lenses and two adapters for less than $125, may be my smallest gear purchase ever!


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Aug 02, 2013 15:55 |  #628

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Two lenses and two adapters for less than $125, may be my smallest gear purchase ever!

Welcome to the wonders of Vintage glass :cool: A few months ago I picked up an SLR, flash, 2x TC and 4 lenses for $40 :)

Here's a shot from my Vivitar Series 1 70-210

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Aug 02, 2013 16:49 |  #629

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Welcome to the wonders of Vintage glass :cool: A few months ago I picked up an SLR, flash, 2x TC and 4 lenses for $40 :)

Thanks, I have to admit it's all YOUR fault!

I keep seeing all your posts with pictures you took in a variety of threads and they are what got me interested in vintage, plus that is the only way I'll be able to afford f/1.2, 1.4, and 2.0 glass any time soon.

If I can make shots half as good as some of yours, I'll be happy.


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Aug 02, 2013 17:05 |  #630

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Thanks, I have to admit it's all YOUR fault!

I keep seeing all your posts with pictures you took in a variety of threads and they are what got me interested in vintage, plus that is the only way I'll be able to afford f/1.2, 1.4, and 2.0 glass any time soon.

If I can make shots half as good as some of yours, I'll be happy.

Thanks man, I really appreciate that :)

I got into vintage glass for the same reasons, I stick with it now because I honestly enjoy manual focusing more than AF :cool:


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