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Sep 17, 2012 11:15 |  #331

jj_glos wrote in post #15003436 (external link)
The 6D is below the 5D line... it's not intended to be an upgrade for 5D2 users.

canon should have saved all the effort of developing the 6D and merely continue to sell the 5Dii. If anything the 5Diii should have adopted the 6D name


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Sep 17, 2012 11:17 |  #332

Tony_Stark wrote in post #15003473 (external link)
The 6D is basically replacing the 5D2 on the "entry level". So yes removing basic features that have been present in such cameras for last 10+ years is idiotic. Simply because it has a joystick and dual card options will not rob sales from the 5D3.

The 5D2 was already in the low $2000 range ever since the 5D3 came out. Now you release another came for the same price but removed major features, but kept same crippled features. Doesn't make any kind of sense. Why waste more R&D and marketing costs to produce an inferior product?

No it's not, not at all. The 5D2 was replaced by the..... 5D3 who'd have though it?! The 6D is a new line sitting below the 5D line, they even use numbers and everything so you can understand it... :p




  
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Sep 17, 2012 11:19 |  #333

boerewors wrote in post #15003478 (external link)
canon should have saved all the effort of developing the 6D and merely continue to sell the 5Dii. If anything the 5Diii should have adopted the 6D name

Well they wanted a smaller lighter body so that's what they went with. If they had just warmed over the 5D2 people would be up in arms!




  
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Sep 17, 2012 11:20 |  #334

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So only 1 SD card, not dual option, got rid of the amazing joystick in the back?! Really Canon? Massive fail.

No, I disagree. It makes perfect sense as a upgrade camera for the 60D which has the EXACT same configuration. One SD card and the new "multi-way controller"

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The joystick multicontroller on the 5D Mark III is replaced by a 60D-like 8-way pad inside the rear dial,

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Sep 17, 2012 11:20 |  #335

jj_glos wrote in post #15003486 (external link)
No it's not, not at all. The 5D2 was replaced by the..... 5D3 who'd have though it?! The 6D is a new line sitting below the 5D line, they even use numbers and everything so you can understand it... :p

Seems like your reading skills are quite acute. Clearly ignored the very first thing I wrote. After the 5D3 was released the 5D2 was dropped in price and pretty much became the an entry level camera. So when the 6D comes along and thats that cameras place, would the term replace not be properly suited? I know in the actual lineup the 5D3 replaced the 5D2; not questioning that.


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Sep 17, 2012 11:22 |  #336

I was planning to buy a new 5DII last week. Posponed it to see what will this new camera be. So it has solved my dilema that the 5DII is 4 year old technology. Canon has upgraded 5DII to 2012 model. So looking forward to 5DII (new) in Dec. I have already put my Tokina on sale.

Why could they not add a flash for emergency / fill use. My sigma has gone bad and I used my built in flash on wifes birthday few days back.

I hope it has a great sensor and usable ISO6400.


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Sep 17, 2012 11:23 |  #337

msowsun wrote in post #15003500 (external link)
No, I disagree. It makes perfect sense as a upgrade camera for the 60D which has the EXACT same configuration. One SD card and the new "multi-way controller"

60D review http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/canoneos60D/​4 (external link)

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Fair enough makes more sense in that context. From personal experience, I prefer the joystick than the pad. Much easier to control. But thats just me.


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Sep 17, 2012 11:24 |  #338

boerewors wrote in post #15003478 (external link)
canon should have saved all the effort of developing the 6D and merely continue to sell the 5Dii. If anything the 5Diii should have adopted the 6D name

Why, when they've done something better, offered a camera that's a slight improvement on the 5D Mark II for the same price.


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Sep 17, 2012 11:26 |  #339

Mornnb wrote in post #15003526 (external link)
Why, when they've done something better, offered a camera that's a slight improvement on the 5D Mark II for the same price.

What have they improved exactly? Slightly higher FPS, by about 1 frame. Better ISO due to new processor and smaller resolution sensor. And SD card instead of CF. On wait the new AF right?!


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Sep 17, 2012 11:26 |  #340

Tony_Stark wrote in post #15003473 (external link)
The 6D is basically replacing the 5D2 on the "entry level". So yes removing basic features that have been present in such cameras for last 10+ years is idiotic. Simply because it has a joystick and dual card options will not rob sales from the 5D3.

The 5D2 was already in the low $2000 range ever since the 5D3 came out. Now you release another came for the same price but removed major features, but kept same crippled features. Doesn't make any kind of sense. Why waste more R&D and marketing costs to produce an inferior product?

It doesn't make sense to you but, the 5D 2 is already discontinued. The 6D is entry level FF but, minus the bells and whistles of the 5D 3. Just buy the 5D 3 if that's what you're aiming for.




  
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Sep 17, 2012 11:28 |  #341

the fact that it doesn't use CF cards though, that's an automatic deal breaker for me. I'm not gonna replace my stack of cards, nor do I intend to carry two different cards with me (as I'm not gonna retire my 40D, might have it modded to IR eventually). I'm not a fan of the little cards, too easy to loose on my messy desk ;-)a


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Sep 17, 2012 11:28 |  #342

Tom Reichner wrote in post #15003344 (external link)
I really thought that theh next time Canon announced a new body, that it would be something that would absolutely blow us away. Rather, this just seems to be something middle-of-the-road that is designed to fit into a given price point.

Does anyone feel that this is going to completely blow away any camera that they've ever used before? At an affordable price point? I don't think so. That's why so many are disappointed.

agreed.

I honestly don't get why people expect 99% functionality of 5D3 at only 60% ($2100/$3500, use MSRPs) of the price.

this is already pretty much in every way better than 5D2 and pretty much the same price as a used 5D2 (don't compare with MSRP).



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Sep 17, 2012 11:28 |  #343

jdizzle wrote in post #15003537 (external link)
It doesn't make sense to you but, the 5D 2 is already discontinued. The 6D is entry level FF but, minus the bells and whistles of the 5D 3. Just buy the 5D 3 if that's what you're aiming for.

I guess Im just not on board with the direction Canon decided to take with the 6D. Im not in the market for a new camera by any means, but merely sharing my opinions on the new release.


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Sep 17, 2012 11:29 |  #344

Based on the specs. This camera is not for me.


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Sep 17, 2012 11:30 |  #345

Tony_Stark wrote in post #15003502 (external link)
Seems like your reading skills are quite acute. Clearly ignored the very first thing I wrote. After the 5D3 was released the 5D2 was dropped in price and pretty much became the an entry level camera. So when the 6D comes along and thats that cameras place, would the term replace not be properly suited? I know in the actual lineup the 5D3 replaced the 5D2; not questioning that.

The 5D line is a higher spec, yes they ran the 5D2 for longer but the 6D does not replace it the 5D3 does. Features can't be compared.

I would've liked a 5D3 "lite" for £1500 as well as the next person, Canon unfortunately aren't as generous as that!




  
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