Canon eos 6d offically announced

He is more like a joke for me, Ken Rockwell

jdizzle wrote in post #15003724
To focus on one eye? I move the AF point too but, even then I don't use the center unless I need to. I guess the benefit is the increased sensitivity. Still, it's better to work with more than one point than just one.

True More is better, I don't know that in this case it would make me choose one over the other. One completely sucking and the other being decent would though!

If I'm in the market for an entry-level full-frame Canon camera, I'm looking for a used/refurbuished 5dMK3, not this thing. Would it have killed them to at least give it 7D AF?

lonescout wrote in post #15003694
There is no out going model per se, the sector that was covered by the 5D mkII is now covered by the 5D mkIII and 6D.

Having a look at the second hand market it appears that some 1Ds mkIII owners are moving to the 5D mkIII, so the 5D mkx seems to have shifted slightly 'upwards' in its appeal. This leaves a gap further down the scale which the 6D fills.

Unless of course I am over simplifying things. Which is entirely possible.

I still own my 1Ds 3 bcoz' the 5D 3 doesn't offer anything I need. Plus, the sensor is still plagued with banding.

jdizzle wrote in post #15003739
I still own my 1Ds 3 bcoz' the 5D 3 doesn't offer anything I need. Plus, the sensor is still plagued with banding.

Banding sucks. We should be getting clean files at high ISO with no need to PP the noise out. I surely hope that this new 6D has better, cleaner high ISO performance than the 5D3, which has been a huge disappointment for those wanting 1Dx level image quality at an entry level/mid range price point.

HyperYagami wrote in post #15003542
agreed.

I honestly don't get why people expect 99% functionality of 5D3 at only 60% ($2100/$3500, use MSRPs) of the price.

this is already pretty much in every way better than 5D2 and pretty much the same price as a used 5D2 (don't compare with MSRP).

I think we expect the 6D to be spaced apart from the 5D3 about as equally as the D600 is spaced away from the D800. It is not. By comparison the 6D is already lagging way behind the D600, and the D600 will be on shelves this week. This camera does not exist in a vacume.

How is it "in every way better" than the 5D2? It is better than the 5D2 in a couple ways, the same as the 5D2 is a couple ways, and worse than tha 5D2 in a couple ways. And the same price as a used 5D2? Maybe a used 5D2 a year ago. A NEW 5D2 is $1,999 right now. Not refurb, brand new. Even before the announcement of the 6D it was $2,199 and could be had for less on sale.
http://www.adorama.com​/ICA5DM2.html

gocolts wrote in post #15003738
Would it have killed them to at least give it 7D AF?

would rather get nicely spread-out but less sensitive AF points than bunched up together but more sensitive ones, like they did with 5D2.

Ghost240sx wrote in post #15003667
Why would it drop to more than half in price used? Do you forget that the 5Dc was the original entry level FF camera? The 5DII (and III) were simply created to expand from the entry level enthusiast to an advanced full frame enthusiast. Canon positioned this perfectly. Just because it doesn't satisfy YOUR needs doesn't mean it is a pointless camera or lacking. This is a great entry level camera that replaces the 5Ds position. 5DII prices will continue to drop because technology is advancing and people are choosing more viable options. New cameras aren't the only ones affecting camera body prices. Don't forget all the used 1D(1Ds) series cameras that are for sale. Proven workhorses offering more than these cameras.

In short, 6D is a great addition. 5DII will keep dropping in price as will the 5Dc. It is a camera, which is a tool. Not an investment. Gear Naz1s get over yourselves.

I was actually joking, and I agree with all you just said...apparently I need to rethink my humor haha

gocolts wrote in post #15003738
If I'm in the market for an entry-level full-frame Canon camera, I'm looking for a used/refurbuished 5dMK3, not this thing. Would it have killed them to at least give it 7D AF?

It would not be good for 5D mkIII sales

jdizzle wrote in post #15003739
I still own my 1Ds 3 bcoz' the 5D 3 doesn't offer anything I need. Plus, the sensor is still plagued with banding.

I did say 'some' owners. Again it's all about fitness for task, so to speak. I went with a 5D mkIII over a second hand 1Ds mkIII as being able to take the grip off for traveling is of benefit to me. Amongst others.

Billginthekeys wrote in post #15003758
and worse than tha 5D2 in a couple ways.

People complain about 1) lack of joystick, 2) touchscreen and 3) SD card as "worse" (but honestly not to me). What are the others?

Sigh why would Canon come out with a camera that would only sync at 1/180?

too bad about the af points...

Curious to see if the LV screen can MF better than any other standard screen..

Warl0rd wrote in post #15003625
I really can't understand why this camera has 11 AF points with only one cross type and the 650D has 9 points ALL cross type!

someone please explain me how can a $2000 camera have a crappier AF system then a $950 released EARLIER.

guess it depends on how the software uses them. for all we know at this point, the AF system on the 6D uses 'hints' from the surrounding points in order to better guess at when the image is in focus? maybe it cheats that way, and cross types would mess up the fuzzy logic involved.

HyperYagami wrote in post #15003681
http://www.kenrockwell​.com/canon/6d.htm

what's interesting is he has been using the camera since...March!?

nm: EXIF says 5D3, not sure what he's smoking.

ha ha. I was going to check the EXIFs too. What a leech. Funny comments from him on the site. What a joke

"The 6D is the world's best DSLR."

"The 6D has no M-Fn button near the shutter, which I never use anyway. "

"The differences are minor, so if money matters, of course get the 6D. " in 5D MIII vs 6d Comparison

cwphoto wrote in post #15003018
The information is right there in the statement! FFS...

really? other than the letters on the lens, Does it tell me what they are used for? why they exist? or what the differences are?

There is no need to just state the obvious. Like there is really no need for me to keep replying to you.

But dude, come on man think before you post.