Canon eos 6d offically announced

Pete W wrote in post #15008339
Digital Revs is in Hong Kong and you will need to pay VAT/Import duty on top of their prices.... Plus NO UK CANON WARRANTY

When I bought my 70-200 from them it came with a Canon UK warranty card inside. Not sure if that is representative of all orders.

Owain Glyndwr wrote in post #15008351
If they are selling the 5DIII below the UK RRP then surely they will also sell the 6D at a similar discount to the UK RRP, thus maintaining the price differential?

I don't see how this has anything to do with my post?

Owain Glyndwr wrote in post #15008405
they have very mixed customers reviews, certainly enough bad reviews to make me feel uncomfortable spending €2,600 with them for a 5DIII.

FWIW, my experience with them was flawless. Bought a 70-200 f4 IS, got it delivered a couple of days later (granted I'm in HK so delivery is going to be fast regardless), and when I wanted to return it, they processed the return and promptly gave me a full refund no questions asked as they say they will do on their site.

kenshap wrote in post #15008390
I'm sure there are a few, but I'll bet their pictures aren't worth anything.

But then that doesn't matter to Canon, all that matters is the money they get from selling the camera, not what the buyer does with it.

Pete W wrote in post #15008359
Agree, so comparing one from HK to the other from UK is totally pointless.....

He's comparing the cheapest available prices available in the UK at the moment. Once the 6D is available that will most likely be cheaper as well. As it stands I can buy an imported 5D3 from a UK based company for £1930 delivered. Of course this is with a third party warranty, it's up to you if the 1 year Canon warranty is worth the extra £500 or so...!

Owain Glyndwr wrote in post #15008405
they have very mixed customers reviews, certainly enough bad reviews to make me feel uncomfortable spending €2,600 with them for a 5DIII.

where?

every company is not fully bullet proof and like others have said, its the negetive people who make the loudest noise. there are millions who are happy with Dr and never post a complaint. a quiet customer is 10/10 a happy customer

Nick3434 wrote in post #15007937
You could pair this with a 60d and have a very nice budget kit that is capable of great pics for all situations. I am considering this.

I'm also considering this. If the reviews are good, I'll probably wait for a $100-$200 sale and then jump in.

which other brand offers a pro lens as a kit, with an entry level cam.
L poison from the very start.

http://web.canon.jp/im​aging/eosd/samples/eos​6d/

(samples)

kasey wrote in post #15008032
I don't claim to know about their processes. But if someone can show me a scenario where one can produce 4 different lines of products that is more efficient than one single line, let me know. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Instead of having to monitor the demand for 4 different lines of products and adjust your production for 4 of them, you manufacture one single line of sensor which can replace any other line at any time when shortage occur. This eliminates bottlenecks and glut and also costs in maintaining 4 different fabrication configurations / or worse, alternating the configurations for fabrication. The overhead is always there, its just a matter of how much. Thats a given.

Of course, the overheads can be justified if there is a need to have 4 different designs. The problem is, I have a hard time seeing how the 20 and 22 mp sensors with the same ISO spec released in quick succession could justify that.

Just because a company has been doing that for years, doesn't mean that always work, especially in technology. Look at what GM, Nokia and Kodak have been doing for years. I rest my case. Its precisely this kind of COMPLACENCY that kills them.

And when was the last time you designed a digital camera sensor? Best leave that to the professionals....calle​d Canon engineers. I trust them over your opinions....soz bud.

This may be an assumption, but I expect when the 6D gets in reviewers hands they're going to say something like this:

What the EOS 6D lacks in style and headline, attention-grabbing features, it more than makes up for in practicality, In practice its a fantastic imaging tool that reliably delivers results, the Image sensor is the best Canon has made, Even besting the 5D Mark III in some respects and easily more than a match for its closest competition, the D600, the Autofocus system made us nervous at first, but in practice it shows that Canon knew what they were doing, the 5D Mark II this isnt, it consistently delivers spot on focusing, even in the worst conditions, in fact, the AF module easily matches and in some situations exceeds the Nikon D600's, All in all, while not impressive and attention grabbing at first the EOS 6D has proven it is a superb imaging tool and another camera that any Canon shooter should be proud to have in their bag

Just allow me a small little bit of fanboying there.. Alright?

jonneymendoza wrote in post #15008269
Actually the 50L is crap at focusing, worse then a nifty fifty

Also why are u limiting yourself to buying from the states? there is other counties outside of the US u know! check prices everywhere! check in hong kong or even here in the UK and it may actually be cheaper.

Like i said before why limit yourselfs to buying in your contry of residence?
im from uk and i got my 5d3 from digitelrev Hong kong saving nearly 1k mate. free delivery and took 3 days max from day of order.

Your 50L might be crap at focussing, but mine is very accurate. Try it on a 5DIII, it's an amazing lens.

What about UK import duty and taxes? It pretty much negates getting anything from HK these days. There's a few jersey mail order retailers that have very keen UK prices though.

KenjiS wrote in post #15008949
This may be an assumption, but I expect when the 6D gets in reviewers hands they're going to say something like this:

What the EOS 6D lacks in style and headline, attention-grabbing features, it more than makes up for in practicality, In practice its a fantastic imaging tool that reliably delivers results, the Image sensor is the best Canon has made, Even besting the 5D Mark III in some respects and easily more than a match for its closest competition, the D600, the Autofocus system made us nervous at first, but in practice it shows that Canon knew what they were doing, the 5D Mark II this isnt, it consistently delivers spot on focusing, even in the worst conditions, in fact, the AF module easily matches and in some situations exceeds the Nikon D600's, All in all, while not impressive and attention grabbing at first the EOS 6D has proven it is a superb imaging tool and another camera that any Canon shooter should be proud to have in their bag

Just allow me a small little bit of fanboying there.. Alright?

Yep and it looks like the 6D can accept the old 5DII's fine focus view finder screen....so you can actually see what's in focus through the view finder when using fast primes....something you can't do on a 5DIII or any Nikon camera. Plus there's the "it can focus down to -3 ev" which is a lot lower than the 5DIII or anything from Nikon. I think this camera is a very specific set of design parameters which is completely lost on a lot of the followers of this forum. This camera will works amazingly with fast primes, added wifi and low light ability....this is a camera for pros who want image quality, light weight and work in low light....wedding photographers and event photographers come to mind. It's keenly priced to shift a lot of boxes and it's well built enough to handle those kind of environments. It's the right price point and it's the right camera....but i understand if people are crying over the lack of zillions of AF points. Get a life or buy a Nikon, but please try to be happy with your purchases and life choices ;-D

http://www.canonrumors​.com …ons-at-3-plants-in-china/

Could be they delay it anyways

GMCPhotographics wrote in post #15009016
Yep and it looks like the 6D can accept the old 5DII's fine focus view finder screen....so you can actually see what's in focus through the view finder when using fast primes....something you can't do on a 5DIII or any Nikon camera. Plus there's the "it can focus down to -3 ev" which is a lot lower than the 5DIII or anything from Nikon. I think this camera is a very specific set of design parameters which is completely lost on a lot of the followers of this forum. This camera will works amazingly with fast primes, added wifi and low light ability....this is a camera for pros who want image quality, light weight and work in low light....wedding photographers and event photographers come to mind. It's keenly priced to shift a lot of boxes and it's well built enough to handle those kind of environments. It's the right price point and it's the right camera....but i understand if people are crying over the lack of zillions of AF points. Get a life or buy a Nikon, but please try to be happy with your purchases and life choices ;-D

As long as you using center AF point just liek folks did with 5d/5dmk2. I hope I am wrong but can't imagine the regular horizontal/vertical points to become so good all of sudden. 5d/5d2 is worthless in low light with outer points compared to 5dmk3. So how good fast prime if I have to center AF only.

KenjiS wrote in post #15008435
Apple announced the iPhone 5 last week and is shipping it next week, it will be in peoples hands less than a month after announcement

And I'd say buzz is very important in the camera business in this day and age, Cameras are as much electronics as any smartphone, convergence between devices is rapidly becoming the norm, and to simply ignore these things is likely to end up suicidal...

You WANT your salesguys at camera stores excited for products, You WANT forums excited for it, Heck, look what the D600 did around here as proof of that, Nikon got in peoples heads and people were talking about what a great camera the D600 is based on its spec sheet, Thats good marketing, Why? People are talking about it, its in their heads, and it has them debating if they want to switch systems...

Whether you think those people are being stupid or jumping the gun doesnt matter, The fact is the marketing has worked, the buzz/hype machine has worked, Doesnt matter if they sell it in 3 months realizing its a mistake or because the 6D is shipping and everyone is going "HEY THE 6D IS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD!" Nikon still sold you a camera, and still got your money...

Apple just delayed shipment of the iPhone 5, I read online....

Buzz does nothing for ME. When I heard the t4i was announced, I bought it almost immediately. I didn't wait for the reviews, buzz, inevitable youtube videos etc.

I didnt heed the words of people "wiser" than me saying the t4i wasn't a worthy upgrade and the touchscreen is a gimmick. And iq is worse than the t2i....all of that is b/s. I went out and bought it because I understood the features and how they relate to me in a package that was familiar and comfortable.

I'm betting on is forum a lot of the negativity is due to people who are pissed off canon didn't give the 6d the combined capabilities of the 1dx and 5d3 in a sub-$2,000 package, but are going to buy it anyway because it makes sense to purchase.

Let them debate whether to switch brands, the days of buying a GM vehicle because your daddy owned one is over. For every canon to Nikon switch, there is a Nikon to canon switch. Canon, being a international, multifaceted conglomerate isn't going under, because a small group of vocal posters didn't like the specs.

From my point of view they did me a favor as I'm now thinking about the 6d.

GMCPhotographics wrote in post #15009016
Yep and it looks like the 6D can accept the old 5DII's fine focus view finder screen....so you can actually see what's in focus through the view finder when using fast primes....something you can't do on a 5DIII or any Nikon camera.

Definitely a plus.

Wedding and other event photographers would be crazy (or extremely cash-strapped) not to go with a 5DIII over the 6D for the AF. Again it's not about wanting a zillion points, just a few points that work extremely well, and when we're talking about using large aperture primes in low light the non-cross-type points on the 6D or any other camera just won't cut it and focus-recompose is dodgy at best for such large apertures. If they are indeed targeting event photographers they wouldn't have left the outer AF points as non-cross-type.

Lovely recent photos in your Flickr, by the way.

kenshap wrote in post #15009036
Apple just delayed shipment of the iPhone 5, I read online....

Buzz does nothing for ME. When I heard the t4i was announced, I bought it almost immediately. I didn't wait for the reviews, buzz, inevitable youtube videos etc.

From my point of view they did me a favor as I'm now thinking about the 6d.

Did they? Darn...

Pretty much how i am as well...

I bought the 7D, I knew it was going to be good, it was as if Canon was in my head and designed a camera for me, people were complaining about it and i defended it endlessly, The minute i first held one I had a grin on my face people would think i was mental, It was -me- in a camera...

Heck the only reason I'm hesitant on the 6D is I still love my 7D.... I do great with a 7D, Would a full frame camera be beneficial to my types of shooting (Macros, food...ok i shoot EVERYTHING) Or would I be happier changing up my lenses a bit more (Thinking of that new Sigma 35mm f/1.4.. ) and enjoying my 7D for a while longer... I mean heck, Would an FF give me better color than this:

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