ANYONE ELSE THINKING

That the crop sensor is on borrowed time ?? Im thinking its going to go away pretty quick.

Everything is on borrowed time, but for what's left of my lifetime... crop sensor is here to stay. Of course, I'm still shooting 35mm too.

Just as tiny point and shoot sensor-ed cameras continue to sell well, APS-C sensor-ed cameras will continue to sell well and demand a point in the line-ups of manufacturers. People have been calling the absence of APS-C for a while now but if anything the APS-C lineups of both Canon and Nikon expand.

When a Micro 4/3 sensor 1/2 the size of a full frame sensor produces better IQ than most of canon's crop sensor dslr's you know things are gonna change.

yes, eventually Canon will improve their APS-C sensors

Hate to bring up the "pixels on target" issue but there still is nothing in Canon's lineup that matches the APS-c for things like wildlife. You can't just crop a FF image off of a 20MP sensor and get the same level of detail (unless you use a longer lens or move closer to the subject which is often not possible with wildlife).

So, until the 400 2.8 II comes down in price below $5k (rrriiight) there will be plenty who appreciate a crop sensor DSLR.

I don't see APS-C being completely dropped until a) the manufacturing price of a full frame censor can be brought down to that of the APS-C and b) they can find a way of manufacturing cheap and lightweight lenses for consumer photographers. Neither of which will happen any time soon.

I think the demise of the crop sensor will be slow in coming if it happens. The primary reason FF was so expensive and thus "elite" was it was a lot more expensive to make a sensor that big without flaws. Apparently manufacturing techniques have improved and thats now less of an issue, but you still have tons of legacy gear out there. So when FF sensor tech gets cheap enough to put in a $500 rebel you still have to wonder if canon would abandon all the ef-s lens users. I think they probably wont altogether.

As a bird shooter with somewhat limited funds, I can't see going full frame. I use a 400/5.6 - to get the same field of view with full frame I'd be looking at 600mm+.

The largest amount of bodies sold are the crop sensors. Why drop the high volume seller that gets people into your system? Notice that Rebels are updated about every 12 or so months.

Also remember that croppers hit the street at the sub $1k mark and invariably end up at the $500 - $600 point a year later. Canon would kill sales of expensive FF bodies if they tried that price point with an entry level FF camera. After all, there's a certain amount of FF 'snobbery' that pushes some people to buy 5Dx bodies

Coincidentally, I came at essentially the same question from a slightly different angle in the lens forum earlier today....

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1229851

umphotography wrote in post #15013502
That the crop sensor is on borrowed time ?? Im thinking its going to go away pretty quick.

If you think about it, the dSLR "age" is barely over 10 years old and look at all the massive and drastic changes that happened... 6 digit ISO!!!

Imagine how different the landscape will be in 10 years from now...

andrikos wrote in post #15015636
If you think about it, the dSLR "age" is barely over 10 years old and look at all the massive and drastic changes that happened... 6 digit ISO!!!

Imagine how different the landscape will be in 10 years from now...

Yup. Exactly what I was thinking.

I don't see APS-c going anywhere. Remember, movable type will kill storytelling. Books will kill education. Digital will kill film (NEVER!). Television has been around for 70 years and we still have radio. The single family home has been an American staple for 400 years, yet some of us still choose to spend some of our time in tents. New does not mean the old is useless. APS-c is here to stay.