Anyone else tempted to go Nikon D600?

Wilt wrote in post #15922557
The industry is filled with 'leap frog'. Imagine the expense undertaken by Nikon film camera owners who decided to switch to Canon because Canon digital bodies were so much better at high ISO noise...all those lenses and accessories to buy after selling Nikon stuff on the used market! Now they have the expense of all those lenses and accessories to buy, to switch back once more!

Very true Wilt! I think nowadays that Nikon and Canon are very close though and I don't really see a reason to switch from to the other.

The D600 is fast becoming my favorite of all time though for sure. If I could change one thing it would be the AF point coverage

If Leica M would have had a full frame camera when I went digital I would have bought that but went Canon and I am only switching to Leica M now because I really hate the direction the big two are headed. I find it great to have no auto focus points.

Mr. Clean wrote in post #15924277
Very true Wilt! I think nowadays that Nikon and Canon are very close though and I don't really see a reason to switch from to the other.

...which was the point of my post!

Wilt wrote in post #15924385
...which was the point of my post!

I wouldn't switch to Nikon though they are great cameras.If you are constantly changing equipment you never master any of it.

I was originally in the Nikon camp but decided I didn't want to deal with the oil on sensor or left AF issues of the D800, plus the grip was extremely painful, so I went with the 5DM3 and couldn't be happier! It's nice to know one day I won't see these nasty oil spots on my sensor.

Any mfg. that has to be aware of the issue and unable to fix it isn't worthy of having my hard earned money.

airfrogusmc wrote in post #15924389
I wouldn't switch to Nikon though they are great cameras.If you are constantly changing equipment you never master any of it.

I don't know. I shoot with Zeiss, so with now the pro-AF of the D800 is useless for me, and manual exposure, so as long as the metering is accurate I am good. The basics are the same, but the ergonomics and features are a little different (I think that'll be my next blog post).

CAL Imagery wrote in post #15927335
I don't know. I shoot with Zeiss, so with now the pro-AF of the D800 is useless for me, and manual exposure, so as long as the metering is accurate I am good. The basics are the same, but the ergonomics and features are a little different (I think that'll be my next blog post).

Something Weston said a very long time ago and is still so true today. I totally agree.
"The fact is that relatively few photographers ever master their medium. Instead they allow the medium to master them and go on an endless squirrel cage chase from new lens to new paper to new developer to new gadget, never staying with one piece of equipment long enough to learn its full capacities, becoming lost in a maze of technical information that is of little or no use since they don't know what to do with it.: - Edward Weston

So, are you agreeing with me or disagreeing?

CAL Imagery wrote in post #15927522
So, are you agreeing with me or disagreeing?

What Weston is saying and I agree is if you keep changing gear all the time you never master any of it.

airfrogusmc wrote in post #15927839
What Weston is saying and I agree is if you keep changing gear all the time you never master any of it.

I disagree with this Allen. A camera is a camera. Of course there are different button layouts, different menu systems, etc., but it's still a camera. I feel equally at home with Nikon or Canon. The aspects you need to master; relationship of f stop, ss and iso, etc., are the same regardless of camera.

elrey2375 wrote in post #15927940
I disagree with this Allen. A camera is a camera. Of course there are different button layouts, different menu systems, etc., but it's still a camera. I feel equally at home with Nikon or Canon. The aspects you need to master; relationship of f stop, ss and iso, etc., are the same regardless of camera.

Especially when you shoot entirely manually. All I have to figure out is the damn metering, and I'll have the D800 pretty much down pat whilst shooting Zeiss.

elrey2375 wrote in post #15927940
I disagree with this Allen. A camera is a camera. Of course there are different button layouts, different menu systems, etc., but it's still a camera. I feel equally at home with Nikon or Canon. The aspects you need to master; relationship of f stop, ss and iso, etc., are the same regardless of camera.

Yep a camera is a camera but if it's not second nature and you have to stop and think about what you're doing technically then you aren't effectively capturing your vision. You're thinking about how to use the camera. It takes a very long time for it to all become second nature.

I imagine I "use" as much with my D800 as if I had a Leica.

Nikons are ugly, Canons are beautiful. Sorry, it's a superficial attitude but that's how I feel. The 5DIII looks like it was designed by the same fellow that designed Batman's costume.

On a more practical note, I agree that Canon's ergonomics are way better than Nikon's.

I cannot afford either the d600 or d800, but they are tempting. I love the autocrop feature on the nikon. Plus their D lenses are also cheaper than Canon equivalents. Some of their lenses are so much cheaper that I'll probably end up getting a d80 or d90 just to play around it. My biggest issue with Nikon that prevents me from even going near the d600 or d800 is it's inability to handle noise like a 5d3 or 2. What is the point of paying all that money if all your pictures are noisy at high isos? I recently came upon some photos from a D800 at an event I was also shooting at, and the photographer had his iso set from 2000-3200 in many of the photos. Needless to say many of his photos were noisy as hell when viewed at full resolution! He might as well have been shooting an entry level Nikon. I would have been so disappointed in my pictures if they had looked like that! Conversely, if he had a 5d2 or 3 his photos would have looked awesome at the same iSOs. When I hear people talk about how much more advanced the Nikon is I can't help but recall every noisy picture I've ever seen come out of the d600 and d800 from not just that one photographer but from all over flickr.