Yeah, I picked up the 20d with the Kit lens, but was back the next day to get the 50mm. I hate the kit lens actually, and I find myself barely using except for it's wide end. I guess it's not to be used under low light, as it is pretty slow. I'm a beginner but of the ~800 pictures I've shot in the week I have owned this thing, I really have not liked the kit lens.
As for my T70, yeah it is a good little camera. I was lucky enough to find it in our basement. My parents had basically forgotten we had it, and it was completely new news to me. I shot maybe 20 or so rolls with it before I realized that the advantages of digital are much more important to me. Kind of a bummer, I can't use my old lenses on the new cam though 
Titus, care to take a stab at it? I didn't edit the colors or anything, so I would like to see your take on it.