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Sep 30, 2012 12:00 |  #1

Hi all,
Current setup: 5d iii, 24-105 F4L, 50mm 1.4, 70-200 F2.8 IS II, Rebel T2i, 17-55 F2.8 IS

Dilema: Since I bought my 5d iii, I haven't used the Rebel hardly at all. I've also found that I barely use the 50 1.4 with either camera, and when I do I usually am not happy with the sharpness.

I've considered a few things. I would like to dabble in UWA so have thought about selling the 17-55 and 50, and getting a 16-35 L. Also, while I am happy with the 24-105, I am tempted by the new 24-70 2.8. I do really like the 17-55 and use it at F2.8 quite often (when I only had the Rebel), but now that I have the 5D, I just don't use it enough and I'd like my lens to be useable on both cameras since I plan to keep the rebel as a backup body. The things I don't like about the 24-105 are the barrel distortion at 24, and overall it just doesn't quite have the "wow" factor that the pictures with the 70-200 do.

I shoot a wide variety of subjects, from landscapes, to family photos and portraits, cars, and some sports. Both the 5D3 and the 70-200 have a major wow factor to me and I just love using them. I'm looking for the same feeling with the short/wide angle lenses. What would you guys do?

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Sep 30, 2012 13:01 |  #2

The 16-35L has good potential for wow factor, as does the 24/1.4L and the new 24/2.8 IS. You will probably get a little better image quality with a prime than with a zoom, but the zoom is very flexible.

The new 24-70 looks great (I haven't tried it yet), but it may have as much or more distortion as your 24-105. The distortion probably wouldn't bother me, but you have to make sure it's not too much distortion for your needs.




  
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Sep 30, 2012 13:07 |  #3

Personally, I'd keep the T2i and use it as a backup or second body. I'd keep the 24-105L (I have one for use on my crop cameras). I don't like to sell my lenses, but if you don't like your 50 or 17-55IS, you can consider the 17-40L or the 16-35L to replace one or both of them. They will work on both cameras, and give you good results. Either lens will be useful on a T2i for normal views and wide angle, but will give you ultrawide on the full frame.
Have you tried microadjust on the full-frame with the 50f1.4? It should be a sharp lens on both cameras.
It is much better at f1.8 than wide open, but is useful wide open.
I happen to like the 50f1.4, but you might like the 35f1.4L for low light. If you don't do much of that, then the zooms may serve you well.




  
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Sep 30, 2012 13:16 |  #4

If this was me:

Sell the t2i
Sell the 17-55
Sell the 24-105

Buy a 16-35 VR2
Buy a 10 stop ND filter for landscape work




  
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Sep 30, 2012 13:34 |  #5

Good suggestions. Again, I think I'm keeping the T2i if for nothing else just as a backup body (and one I can keep the 70-200 on or a wide lens on while using the 70-200 with the 5d3. And Zach, I do need a 10 stop still! Some other small gear pickups I want to get are a OCN cable for my 430 EXII, and a cheap umbrella kit to start experimenting more with flash work.

Right now leaning on selling both the 17-55 and the 50, and getting the 16-35. What about 16-35 vs. 17-40, is there a big difference in sharpness/quality? The F2.8 vs F4 isn't a big deal to me with that lens as it would most likely be for outdoors/landscape with a tripod.


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Sep 30, 2012 13:41 |  #6

GuitarDTO wrote in post #15061434 (external link)
Right now leaning on selling both the 17-55 and the 50, and getting the 16-35. What about 16-35 vs. 17-40, is there a big difference in sharpness/quality? The F2.8 vs F4 isn't a big deal to me with that lens as it would most likely be for outdoors/landscape with a tripod.

I had the 17-40 and didn't like it. If your 24-105 isn't giving you a "wow" factor, the 17-40 will be a let down.




  
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Sep 30, 2012 13:52 |  #7

I find the 17-40L sharp enough & a good enough performer in all honesty - As you say, you don't really need the f/2.8 for what you will use it for. I sold my 24-105L to get a 17-40L & I use the 17-40 more times per month than I used the 24-105L in 18 months......

I like the 50/1.4 & 85/1.8 for portraits - I still have my old 450D so I go 450D/85 & 5D2/50 usually on a major shoot. I also have just picked up a Sigma 70-200/2.8 but not really used that for portraits so far....

The second body does come in handy though. Portraits as just mentioned ^^ Landscapes/nature I will take 5D2/17-40 & 450D/100macro or car events 5D2/50 & 450D/70-200 if there is track action.....


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Sep 30, 2012 17:37 |  #8

I am consiering replacing my 17-40 for wideangle work. I tried the 16-35 Mk2 and, though it distorts less, I preferred my existing 17-40.
The only lens that seems to fit the bill for me is the 14-24 Nikon (sorry for swearing!). I have not done a proper comparison yet but it is widely rated as the best short zoom on the market so is well worth a look. The manual focus and apeture (via a cheap adapter) are simply not an issue on static subjects. I currently use a Contax-Zeiss 25mm F2.8 quite a bit for landscapes and simply set apeture and focus when I put it on the camera then forget about it unless subjects are closer than about 2.5 meters.
The Nikon is well woth a look - but expensive!


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Sep 30, 2012 18:19 |  #9

^^You preferred the 17-40 over the 16-35?? What reasons out of curiosity?


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Sep 30, 2012 20:08 as a reply to  @ GuitarDTO's post |  #10

My 17-40L is quite a sharp performer. I dont think the 16-35 is really much better for landscape.... Unless the extra 650 is worth is to you for 1mm and 1stop of light. I spent that money on Lee filters instead. Though I haven't owned it (caveat). I reserve "wow factor" for primes usually though.

If landscape: 24 tse-ii (love this lens, pry it from my dead fingers)
If UWA low light/photojournalism: 24Lii or 35L
If trying to replace the 17-55: go for the 24-70L if you must :) though I will stick with my 50L....


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Sep 30, 2012 20:14 as a reply to  @ jerbear00's post |  #11

Trust me the 24Lii and 24tse2 are in a whole different league for landscape. Beautiful rendering and sharpness corner to corner!

(Personal bias)


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Oct 01, 2012 15:35 |  #12

GuitarDTO wrote in post #15062357 (external link)
^^You preferred the 17-40 over the 16-35?? What reasons out of curiosity?

Mainly the much better colour. I like the reduced distortion of the 16-35 and the better build quality. The 16-35 appeared sharper but my 17-40 is sharp enough so no real advantage here. The 17-40 simply produced nicer looking (to my eye) images.
There are quite a few people out here who prefer the 17-40, though we are probably a minority!


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Oct 01, 2012 18:26 |  #13

jerbear00 wrote in post #15062691 (external link)
My 17-40L is quite a sharp performer. I dont think the 16-35 is really much better for landscape.... Unless the extra 650 is worth is to you for 1mm and 1stop of light. I spent that money on Lee filters instead. Though I haven't owned it (caveat). I reserve "wow factor" for primes usually though.

If landscape: 24 tse-ii (love this lens, pry it from my dead fingers)
If UWA low light/photojournalism: 24Lii or 35L
If trying to replace the 17-55: go for the 24-70L if you must :) though I will stick with my 50L....

What Lee filters out of curiosity? I'm definitely going to look seriously at the 17-40, it seems to be getting a lot of love in this thread, and I suppose I'd actually save money selling my 17-55 and 50 for the 17-40!

I just put up the 17-55 and 50 on Craigslist last night so I'm in full steam ahead research mode.


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Oct 01, 2012 19:23 |  #14

GuitarDTO wrote in post #15066856 (external link)
What Lee filters out of curiosity? I'm definitely going to look seriously at the 17-40, it seems to be getting a lot of love in this thread, and I suppose I'd actually save money selling my 17-55 and 50 for the 17-40!

I just put up the 17-55 and 50 on Craigslist last night so I'm in full steam ahead research mode.

Much as I love my 17-40 on FF and 1.3 crop, try one against yor 17-55 F2.8 before you change! I read the 17-55 is a great lens - so compare the two first!
If you are definitely not going to use your efs mount camera then I think you will like the 17-40. If not then compare them first!


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